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The Photoshop CS4 (Stonehenge) build 20080609.m.379 (both Win and Mac) is now available for download.
Also available are the optional plug-in for Win and Mac.
The build and the plug-in are available via the ’Download Software’ link on the main left nav menu.
KNOWN ISSUES
- Action & Posterize: playing "Make Posterize adjustment layer" with modal turned on leads to crash
- GPU: OGL: Opening an image with OGL on crashes PS. ATI x1900
- When you try to reinstall build 379 on a Windows machine on which 379 has been installed previously you get a "Done, with errors" message.
Workaround 1- Install PS build 379, Launch PS, Uninstall PS, Uninstall Adobe Media Player, Install PS build x379
Workaround 2 - Install PS build 379, Launch PS, Uninstall PS, Install PS on installation options screen uncheck Adobe Media Player (AMP)
Feel free to contact me in case of any issues.
Regards,
VK.
The new unified interface works BRILLIANTLY. I love it.
Thanks for the info! Is available on Adobe website? Couldn't find it...
Vegetunks
Jun 16 2008, 17:19
Waits patiently for a Leak
I've always hated Private Betas
"GPU: OGL: Opening an image with OGL on crashes PS. ATI x1900" => Video Card acceleration?
and what about the 3D menu bar item?
and lastly but not least... isn't there an NDA on this?
Quillz
Jun 16 2008, 17:39
They should drop the Aqua drop-down menus.
^ Even though I don't like having a separate user interface, I've wanted them to lose those for so long, they look terrible when stretched.
Looks a little odd at first glance, especially the titlebar buttons, I don't like them trying to develop their own unique interface, but at least the color scheme matches Leopards.
Hopefully windowed mode will look nicer than fullscreen. At least the palettes look better, less bulky. Lets hope the software is less buggy
Volatile
Jun 16 2008, 18:01
nice. more adobe/macromedia fusion.
MasterC
Jun 16 2008, 18:10
Screenshots of the new build? Or is there some NDA action going on
MasterC
Jun 16 2008, 21:25
Quote - (giga @ Jun 16 2008, 11:12)
^ Uh, it's in the OP.
Well, nothing is showing up for me. Skitch is blocked for me here at work.
Quote - (Quillz @ Jun 16 2008, 18:39)
They should drop the Aqua drop-down menus.
In favour of what?
I can see why, unformity is a key factor in a majority of pro applications, and adobe are wanting to continue in that direction - so I'll put in a feature request for that. Good call.
Quote - (Xero @ Jun 16 2008, 18:48)
^ Even though I don't like having a separate user interface, I've wanted them to lose those for so long, they look terrible when stretched.
Looks a little odd at first glance, especially the titlebar buttons, I don't like them trying to develop their own unique interface, but at least the color scheme matches Leopards.
Hopefully windowed mode will look nicer than fullscreen. At least the palettes look better, less bulky. Lets hope the software is less buggy
If you're assuming the screen shot is full screen, you're wrong - It's windowed mode.
Overall loading times are noticeably faster, even for a preliminary build it's exciting. The Bridge beta is also lightning fast in comparison.
osirisX
Jun 17 2008, 01:02
I really don't get why they junked all that stuff in the title bar. That toolbar that sits right underneath the title bar is where all that should go. Also, is there an option to display palettes like in CS3 (Little icons docked to the side)? Nothing beats only having a palette out when you need it.
What does the ESSENTIALS menu contain?
Quote - (osirisX @ Jun 17 2008, 02:02)
I really don't get why they junked all that stuff in the title bar. That toolbar that sits right underneath the title bar is where all that should go. Also, is there an option to display palettes like in CS3 (Little icons docked to the side)? Nothing beats only having a palette out when you need it.
What does the ESSENTIALS menu contain?
Trust me, upon using it, the placing of all new features in the title bar is perfect. It uses up otherwise useless space, and allows for a far nicer work environment. When I first saw screenshots I was put off too, but actually using it, it's a no-brainer.
The ESSENTIALS drop-down basically houses the different types of displays/shortcut keys available. Your 'workspace' in CS3.
Also yes, you can just display one pallet with the docked icons. Features aren't being removed here, just added and unified!
i dont understand the 'unified' ui?
will it be unified with other Adobe applications? forexample i can have a dreamweaver file open in one tab, and a psd in another? or am i getting the wrong message...?
Quote - (.statix @ Jun 17 2008, 02:42)
i dont understand the 'unified' ui?
will it be unified with other Adobe applications? forexample i can have a dreamweaver file open in one tab, and a psd in another? or am i getting the wrong message...?
The interface of most adobe applications differ. This approach is to make them all practically the same, ala Apple Pro Applications. It allows for an easier and more productive way to work with the suite.
The tabs are merely for the documents you have open in that particular application. No, you won't be able to switch applications through tabs.
osirisX
Jun 17 2008, 02:01
Wouldn't this be a more correct way of doing it?
Except it could look like a unified toolbar. It just seems silly to have stuff in the title bar when there is empty space in the toolbar right underneath the title bar.
Quote - (osirisX @ Jun 17 2008, 03:01)
Wouldn't this be a more correct way of doing it?
Except it could look like a unified toolbar. It just seems silly to have stuff in the title bar when there is empty space in the toolbar right underneath the title bar.
You have to remember the toolbar is interchangable dependant upon what tool you have selected. Ergo can expand and decrease in real estate. Putting those few quick shortcuts on the titlebar is saving space as well as keeping the interface from being overly cluttered.
Like I said, using the application as is and seeing screenshots of it seem to produce 2 very different views on it. Keep an open mind, and when you come actually testing it out, I'm sure you'll be appreciative of its placement.
I know I, and many others in the discussion forums welcome this change.
osirisX
Jun 17 2008, 02:46
No tool has enough items in that toolbar to expand into the area on the right. You mention it being space saving, but you are actually taking up more vertical space by increasing the title bar size in addition to tabs. Vertical space is much more important on todays widescreen monitors. Also, why is the hand, magnifying glass and zoom drop down present in the title bar when they are present elsewhere. Taking those out would minimise the amount of items and thus the rest could be stuck in that toolbar.
I know seeing and using are two different things, but at the moment all I can do is look and judge what I see. I'll definitely keep an open mind when I do get to test it though.
Quote - (osirisX @ Jun 17 2008, 03:46)
No tool has enough items in that toolbar to expand into the area on the right. You mention it being space saving, but you are actually taking up more vertical space by increasing the title bar size in addition to tabs. Vertical space is much more important on todays widescreen monitors. Also, why is the hand, magnifying glass and zoom drop down present in the title bar when they are present elsewhere. Taking those out would minimise the amount of items and thus the rest could be stuck in that toolbar.
I know seeing and using are two different things, but at the moment all I can do is look and judge what I see. I'll definitely keep an open mind when I do get to test it though.
I did a little more digging round, and found that just like all the...frankly controversial elements of CS4 - it's user removable
You cannot, however as of yet - remove the toolbar when in the 'Application Frame' mode (i.e. not a solid unified interface, but the CS3 multi-window style)
I'll also put in a feature request to allow that to happen, although the option is currently grayed out - so I think it's a hard coded part of using the Applicaton Frame.
Quillz
Jun 17 2008, 06:03
Quote - (.mac @ Jun 16 2008, 15:47)
In favour of what?
They should use the drop-down menus in iTunes 7, they would blend much better into the CS4 UI.
Quote - (Quillz @ Jun 17 2008, 07:03)
They should use the drop-down menus in iTunes 7, they would blend much better into the CS4 UI.
Noted. I don't think they'll take my input to that extent, but something consistent with their effort on neutralising the interface in terms of colours should spark something! I mean they decided to grey out the traffic lights, why not this?
Thanks.
MasterC
Jun 17 2008, 06:42
Now that I'm home I took a look at the screenshot. If it ends up looking like that, I think I'm gonna skip it. Looks really ugly for some reason.
Quote - (MasterC @ Jun 17 2008, 07:42)
Now that I'm home I took a look at the screenshot. If it ends up looking like that, I think I'm gonna skip it. Looks really ugly for some reason.
It's
optional=D
maxmara2
Jun 23 2008, 14:00
wow
finally release !
but to large dont u think so
Anybody have Windows screenshots?
It's the same, SQ1
Quote - (.mac @ Jun 17 2008, 08:44)
It's optional
=D
Are the custom mix/max/close buttons as well?
I honestly don't see why they had to add those. They're completely pointless when the scroll bars, checkboxes etc. are still default bright blue Aqua. Next to that there's a Graphite option in System Preferences.
Quote - (.Neo @ Jun 24 2008, 14:19)
Are the custom mix/max/close buttons as well?
I honestly don't see why they had to add those. They're completely pointless when the scroll bars, checkboxes etc. are still default bright blue Aqua. Next to that there's a Graphite option in System Preferences.
They did it to make the interface as neutral in colour as possible. I understand the scroll bars and checkboxes are not the same, I submitted a bug report concerning that - should be fixed by final release, or resolved in some way.
Andrew-DB
Jun 26 2008, 16:26
Quote - (Quillz @ Jun 16 2008, 13:39)
They should drop the Aqua drop-down menus.
I'd kinda like buttons for all the features like filters and what not..
Just have one simple drop down menu:
File:
Open, Save, Save as, Quit.
Quote - (mac @ Jun 26 2008, 18:24)
They did it to make the interface as neutral in colour as possible. I understand the scroll bars and checkboxes are not the same, I submitted a bug report concerning that - should be fixed by final release, or resolved in some way.
The Graphite setting does a fine job at that. The Adobe buttons look awful.
m.410 released. Updated feature list and improvements listed soon...
Build 420 released just now.
Load times are fantastic!
With Flash Panel (kuler) on the far right.
YES. Standard window controls with the dot is back!
gigapixels
Sep 4 2008, 17:46
Flash panels? I love kuler! That's so awesome that they're letting things like that be integrated.
You mean the little asterisks that shows whether it's been saved since last edited?
That's been back now since m.420 I believe. Was hugelyyyyy saught after in the prerelease forums
The close/min/max dot:
Oh, gotcha.
For the photographers, you'll like this
Adobe Confidential
Blitpipe—Build 379
If you have more that 256 MB VRAM on a supported GPU (for a list, see the M3 OpenGL notes below), you will get
the benefit of the blitpipe in the latest drop of Stonehenge (379):
Direct to Screen—With OpenGL turned ON and blitpipe active, you will get Direct to Screen 3D. This greatly
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improves 3D performance when rotating and viewing 3D models.
32-bit HDR Tone Mapping—Adjusting the exposure slider for 32-bit images is extremely fast.
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Faster Video playback performance
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Transparency checker board is drawn via GPU. With OpenGL ON, this will stop the checker board from changing
Stonehenge Build 410 New Feature Notes 8
size as you zoom.
People actually save in 32-bit? A bit excessive
sanctified
Sep 4 2008, 17:58
So that means that my macbook pro will not see these benefits
Quote - (giga @ Sep 4 2008, 18:57)
People actually save in 32-bit? A bit excessive
Unprocessed HDR's from raw are 32bit. You can convert to 16 or 8 bit afterwards. Just allows for non destructive editing. And now faster.
sundayx
Sep 4 2008, 18:59
Emo shower?
That fat titlebar looks rather awkward, otherwise it looks okay, GUI wise.
Quote - (iigloo @ Sep 4 2008, 20:47)
That fat titlebar looks rather awkward, otherwise it looks okay, GUI wise.
Is it still too late to submit bug reports? If you notice the combo boxes (the layers palette), they've squished the arrow which isn't standard.
Correct:
osirisX
Sep 4 2008, 22:33
Quote - (giga @ Sep 5 2008, 03:45)
YES. Standard window controls with the dot is back!
**** yeah! Thank God Adobe came to their senses.
Badie05
Sep 4 2008, 22:33
Any CUDA Support in the Beta??
*PShopTest2.2 - 20 History States*
CS3: 178.48 secs
CS4 x86: 93.47 secs
CS4 x64: 39.78 secs
Quote - (giga @ Sep 4 2008, 23:27)
Is it still too late to submit bug reports? If you notice the combo boxes (the layers palette), they've squished the arrow which isn't standard.
Correct:
Good catch, Submitted.
._.Andy._.
Sep 4 2008, 23:04
looks great!
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