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dysmatik
Would you like to see more Black Versions of Apple's Hardware / Accessories?
[i.e; keyboards, mice, airport, time capsule, etc]

McG
i think it would add a whole bunch of unnecessary skus. think about the complication of a customer going into a retailer "i need a magsafe power adapter and a mighty mouse" the retailer responds "okay what wattage for the adapter? bluetooth mighty mouse or wired mighty mouse? would you like the adapter in black and the mighty mouse in white? or would you like the mighty mouse in black and the adapter in white? or do you want them both black? or both white?"

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Vegetunks
Hell Yeah, A Black iMac, Black Mighty Mouse and Black Keyboard would do nicely biggrin.gif

The only reason I paid for the most expensive MacBook was because it was Black... so is my wallpaper (as in the walls of my room), and so are all my clothes biggrin.gif
dysmatik
Quote - (Vegetunks @ Jun 22 2008, 11:20) *
Hell Yeah, A Black iMac, Black Mighty Mouse and Black Keyboard would do nicely biggrin.gif

The only reason I paid for the most expensive MacBook was because it was Black... so is my wallpaper (as in the walls of my room), and so are all my clothes biggrin.gif


Same reason I bought the Black MacBook too.

My clothes too biggrin.gif
PureLegend
+1 on the clothes and black MacBook tongue.gif
G0NADS
wtf, are you johnny cash?
dysmatik
Quote - (G0NADS @ Jun 22 2008, 11:32) *
wtf, are you johnny cash?

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andykling
I think the white products kind of define Apple. Whenever I see a black MacBook I always do a double take to make sure it's a Mac. I voted NO.
Ollie C
I wouldn't care. Yeh I paid more for the black Macbook but Idunno whether I'd pay extra for black accessories.
VGVL
No. It would create confusion across product lines and complicate logistics for no good reason. It would take away from the "everything on a Mac is simple".

People who buy a time capsule or airport will still buy it even if it's not black, and they will still buy the Mac even if the mighty mouse is white. It's very likely that the revenue not earned by not making the products black is less than the opportunity cost, especially when there are so many compatible third party suppliers.
Cara
My vote goes to a No on this one.

Apple prides itself on having a limited number of SKU's which make product selection easy for its customers. If Apple started adding Black Accessories then you'd also start seeing the desire to have Brushed Aluminum accessories or whatever color that is released in the future which could potentially triple the number of products that Apple would need to manufacture as well as provide stock for.

K.I.S.S. (Keep it stupidly simple)
gigapixels
Yes, for sure. Black electronics = sexy.
mac
Quote - (Cara @ Jun 22 2008, 19:33) *
My vote goes to a No on this one.

Apple prides itself on having a limited number of SKU's which make product selection easy for its customers. If Apple started adding Black Accessories then you'd also start seeing the desire to have Brushed Aluminum accessories or whatever color that is released in the future which could potentially triple the number of products that Apple would need to manufacture as well as provide stock for.

K.I.S.S. (Keep it stupidly simple)


I always thought it was Keep It Simple Stupid.

Was what I was tought in Business anywho tongue.gif
MI6Labs
In the military it's: Keep It Stupid Simple tongue.gif

However I'd say yes... maybe a niche market for a 3rd party to undertake? ohmy.gif
giga
Do not want.
Cormier6083
I'd have to say no. White is very distinct.
dysmatik
I could just see it now....an iPod Styled commercial featuring AC/DC set to "Back in Black" with Angus Young's dancing shadow ripping on his guitar....
Persephone
If I had a Blackbook I think I'd want a black mouse and accessories, so I voted yes. I think that they could keep it to those accessories used directly with the black Macbook though - such as mouse, adaptors - whilst leaving other things as they are (like iPod docks, Time Capsule).
Impact
Yeah, I would love to have a black imac. That would look sweet.
Quillz
When I buy a black iPod, I'd like to have black earbuds.
kaiwai
For me, I like my black Lenovo Thinkpad; I guess it depends on whether you view your computer as a fashion statement or as a device to get work done. For me, I didn't care whether people knew I had an Apple MacBook (when I owned one) nor do I care whether people know I have a thinkpad or not.
Sam Symons Live
Quote - (G0NADS @ Jun 23 2008, 04:32) *
wtf, are you johnny cash?

I lol'd.
dysmatik
Quote - (Persephone @ Jun 23 2008, 16:35) *
If I had a Blackbook I think I'd want a black mouse and accessories, so I voted yes. I think that they could keep it to those accessories used directly with the black Macbook though - such as mouse, adaptors - whilst leaving other things as they are (like iPod docks, Time Capsule).


An that's exactly why I bought the Logitech VX Nano instead of the mighty mouse, well that and more functionality/buttons wink.gif

Quote - (Quillz @ Jun 24 2008, 00:29) *
When I buy a black iPod, I'd like to have black earbuds.

Same here. I use Sony earbuds with mine when I'm not wearing cans. They sound better too.

Estuans
Black, although attractive, isn't Apple.

More AlBooks please biggrin.gif
LunarFalcon
I'd like to see a black aluminum MBP
Brad.
Quote - (giga @ Jun 22 2008, 20:45) *
Do not want.

That post made me laugh a good bit!

I think they should make more black models (for example a black macbook that is the same as the white one, not more expensive -_- ) and not as many black accessories.
Cara
Quote - (LunarFalcon @ Jun 24 2008, 14:05) *
I'd like to see a black aluminum MB


I for one hope we never see colorized MBPs'...MB's on the other hand...
Menge
i wish there were black headphones from Apple. the white ones are just too thief-friendly
Xtreme $niper
I love my Blackbook, but I'm perfectly fine with the lack of black accessories for it. Would make it too typical PCish.
offroadaaron
wow i didn't realise there were so many emo's that just have black everything in here! Crazy. My look on Neowin members has changed!

I wish I could change my vote to no now!
Xtreme $niper
Emos? You are joking right? Electronics across the board are mainly black by default. Does that make every geek emo? rolleyes.gif
offroadaaron
Quote - (Xtreme $niper @ Jul 23 2008, 13:28) *
Emos? You are joking right? Electronics across the board are mainly black by default. Does that make every geek emo? rolleyes.gif


Quote - (Vegetunks @ Jun 23 2008, 01:50) *
Hell Yeah, A Black iMac, Black Mighty Mouse and Black Keyboard would do nicely biggrin.gif

The only reason I paid for the most expensive MacBook was because it was Black... so is my wallpaper (as in the walls of my room), and so are all my clothes biggrin.gif



Quote - (dysmatik @ Jun 23 2008, 01:52) *
Same reason I bought the Black MacBook too.

My clothes too biggrin.gif



Quote - (PureLegend @ Jun 23 2008, 01:58) *
+1 on the clothes and black MacBook tongue.gif


nuff said tongue.gif

Ill stick with the white hardware biggrin.gif
ynnoj
Black is the colour of choice when it comes to my gadgets.

However, I kind of like the contrast between my BlackBook at wireless Mighty Mouse.
Arkanius
My two favorite colors is black and white
I love the contrast they make
However my Blackbook looks weird with a white charger :uwah
Xtreme $niper
Fine, you get +3. But then I can point at the white Macbook and laugh at it for having inconsistent white colours between the case and the keyboard. I'm sorry but that's one of the sole reasons why I got black. The white paint job is fugly.
offroadaaron
Quote - (Xtreme $niper @ Jul 24 2008, 11:12) *
Fine, you get +3. But then I can point at the white Macbook and laugh at it for having inconsistent white colours between the case and the keyboard. I'm sorry but that's one of the sole reasons why I got black. The white paint job is fugly.


yeah I would get a black Macbook don't get me wrong. But whats best is that you buy the black one and everything else is white. Apple wins because emo's buy the blackbook and make them buy white accessories. Its pure genius!

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enva
Maybe Apple might be introducing the iEmo?

Couldnt resist that, sorry
Boktai
I think the Black MacBook looks the coolest but if I could I would get the MacBook Pro why don't they have a black aluminum version :[
Cara
Quote - (Boktai1000 @ Jul 23 2008, 21:47) *
I think the Black MacBook looks the coolest but if I could I would get the MacBook Pro why don't they have a black aluminum version :[


For the current time, Apple views their Pro line as a very distinctive appearance line and doesn't want to dilute the brand recognition by adding colors.

When you see a Brushed Metal Notebook, 99% of the time it's a MacBook Pro and people have been trained to think that way. smile.gif
39 Thieves
Quote - (Cara @ Jun 22 2008, 13:33) *
My vote goes to a No on this one.

Apple prides itself on having a limited number of SKU's which make product selection easy for its customers. If Apple started adding Black Accessories then you'd also start seeing the desire to have Brushed Aluminum accessories or whatever color that is released in the future which could potentially triple the number of products that Apple would need to manufacture as well as provide stock for.

K.I.S.S. (Keep it stupidly simple)



So, Apple customers are too stupid to be allowed to pick out what colors they like..?
(Spork)
hell yes !
neufuse
This is one reason why Apple PC's (yes PC's thats all they are.. dont be brainwashed by commercials on tv) will never become as mainstream as IBM based PC's... there is really little choice... if your a pro you have to have brushed metal! if your an amature here have cheap black or white plastic! thast all you get!
Cara
Quote - (39 Thieves @ Jul 24 2008, 11:06) *
So, Apple customers are too stupid to be allowed to pick out what colors they like..?


Try re-reading what I posted, no where did I say that...

Quote - (neufuse @ Jul 24 2008, 11:08) *
This is one reason why Apple PC's (yes PC's thats all they are.. dont be brainwashed by commercials on tv) will never become as mainstream as IBM based PC's... there is really little choice... if your a pro you have to have brushed metal! if your an amature here have cheap black or white plastic! thast all you get!


And if you buy a Dell (Until E-Series) you had cheap Plastic, or HP had Cheap Plastic, or Acer or a dozen others... The only manufacturer in the major arena that had a non-plastic enclosure standard is Lenovo with their Aluminum/Magnesium case... So I fail to see your argument's point there...
39 Thieves
Quote - (Cara @ Jul 24 2008, 13:09) *
Try re-reading what I posted, no where did I say that...


You said Apple limits its product selection in order to make choices easy for their customer, including limiting the available colors, which is the basis for this discussion. So, paraphrasing here, Apple makes choices easy on customers, by not giving them any? Or is it that they believe their customers are incapable of making choices on their own, even in regards to color selection of peripherals? Call me crazy, but if I don't think someone has the capability to select colors on their own, either I don't think too highly of them, or I believe said individuals should be eating applesauce through a straw.

So which is it?
neufuse
Quote - (Cara @ Jul 24 2008, 14:09) *
Try re-reading what I posted, no where did I say that...



And if you buy a Dell (Until E-Series) you had cheap Plastic, or HP had Cheap Plastic, or Acer or a dozen others... The only manufacturer in the major arena that had a non-plastic enclosure standard is Lenovo with their Aluminum/Magnesium case... So I fail to see your argument's point there...


Yet my HP workstation is made out of metal... that is my point! MacBook pro is a "workstation" quality system... so is the MacPro... I wasn't talking about just notebook computers here...

You have way more choices with it comes to designs on the Non-Mac based side... I don't know how you couldn't see that point? I can choose color, shape, size, weight... Apple it's here's 3 models of each type basically and here's the 3 options we give you to choose from hardware that is "compatable" with it... heck if i wanted something i could littearly throw around I could go to a panasonic toughbook... no mac replacement for that yet wink.gif
Cara
Quote - (39 Thieves @ Jul 24 2008, 11:14) *
You said Apple limits its product selection in order to make choices easy for their customer, including limiting the available colors, which is the basis for this discussion. So, paraphrasing here, Apple makes choices easy on customers, by not giving them any? Or is it that they believe their customers are incapable of making choices on their own, even in regards to color selection of peripherals? Call me crazy, but if I don't think someone has the capability to select colors on their own, either I don't think too highly of them, or I believe said individuals should be eating applesauce through a straw.

So which is it?


Apple doesn't have to make the exact Mac everyone on the planet individually wants, they provide a specific lineup which hits major demographics and therefore keeping their production costs and component requirements down making the choice process more streamlined where a customer can chose the best machine for their use. smile.gif This doesn't imply a customer is not capable of deciding, it simply says that Apple makes it a much more streamlined process by providing a carefully selected, branded, marketed, and designed product lineup. smile.gif

Quote - (neufuse @ Jul 24 2008, 11:15) *
Yet my HP workstation is made out of metal... that is my point! MacBook pro is a "workstation" quality system... so is the MacPro... I wasn't talking about just notebook computers here...

You have way more choices with it comes to designs on the Non-Mac based side... I don't know how you couldn't see that point? I can choose color, shape, size, weight... Apple it's here's 3 models of each type basically and here's the 3 options we give you to choose from hardware that is "compatable" with it...


I agree with you on the first point, 'Workstations' are a different aspect all together. smile.gif Professional quality machines demand a higher level of material construction than your average consumer product. Mac Pro is a perfect example of a workstation vs desktop. smile.gif

With the 3 Apple Notebook types you chose from Color (White/Black/Silver), size (13/15/17-inch), and weight...I don't know any machine that choses shape...that is a new one on me.

Once you've made the selection from Apple's base lineup you then customize it just like you would a Dell/Lenovo/HP... So that is where I don't see where you are coming from...

Your edit about the Toughbook...COMPLETELY different product line, until Dell entered the market with their rugged model no one else had a product like that. Apple does not have a product in that field, no.
neufuse
Quote - (Cara @ Jul 24 2008, 14:21) *
Apple doesn't have to make the exact Mac everyone on the planet individually wants, they provide a specific lineup which hits major demographics and therefore keeping their production costs and component requirements down making the choice process more streamlined where a customer can chose the best machine for their use. smile.gif This doesn't imply a customer is not capable of deciding, it simply says that Apple makes it a much more streamlined process by providing a carefully selected, branded, marketed, and designed product lineup. smile.gif



I agree with you on the first point, 'Workstations' are a different aspect all together. smile.gif Professional quality machines demand a higher level of material construction than your average consumer product. Mac Pro is a perfect example of a workstation vs desktop. smile.gif

With the 3 Apple Notebook types you chose from Color (White/Black/Silver), size (13/15/17-inch), and weight...I don't know any machine that choses shape...that is a new one on me.

Once you've made the selection from Apple's base lineup you then customize it just like you would a Dell/Lenovo/HP... So that is where I don't see where you are coming from...

Your edit about the Toughbook...COMPLETELY different product line, until Dell entered the market with their rugged model no one else had a product like that. Apple does not have a product in that field, no.


Lots of companies had "Toughbooks" panasonic wasnt the first and them and Dell currently arnt the only ones making them... as for a little history... Motorola made them, Toshiba, Symbol makes them, Mobilis, lots of IHV's sell them right now...

as for apple only makes certain ones to streamline the production process... that is what is going to get them in trouble someday... their market gets too big they will be a "monopoly" on their own products
Brandon
If I were buying a macbook, Id gladly pay an extra $50-100 for aluminum
b0m8er
I'd rather have them make aluminum accessories to go with my macbook air smile.gif
Cara
Quote - (neufuse @ Jul 24 2008, 11:33) *
Lots of companies had "Toughbooks" panasonic wasnt the first and them and Dell currently arnt the only ones making them... as for a little history... Motorola made them, Toshiba, Symbol makes them, Mobilis, lots of IHV's sell them right now...

as for apple only makes certain ones to streamline the production process... that is what is going to get them in trouble someday... their market gets too big they will be a "monopoly" on their own products


I was only aware of Dell, Panasonic, and Toshiba public marketing 'Toughbook' style machines. smile.gif I didn't know about the others, however, this is still a very specialized market that isn't a general consumer area. smile.gif

Apple will adjust to the demands of the customer as the market-share continues to grow, I do not worry to much about becoming a Monopoly anytime soon so long as Dell is around! wink.gif
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