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Brodel
I'm looking at buying my first DSLR and I think I'm going to chose between these two or possibly a Nikon D40. Anyway, the review over at dpreview.com shows these two images, the first being the 400d and the second the 350d.

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD80...00d_iso0100.JPG

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD80...50d_iso0100.JPG


To me, the 350d picture looks a lot better, the 400d looks kinda yellow to my eyes. Both cameras had the same settings and the review doesn't seem to make any mention of the difference though. Does anyone else agree and/or know why this is, or are my eyes playing tricks on me?
Sethos
Yeah, I see the yellow tint on the 400d as well.
Pandya
I see a minor yellow tint to the 400D image. Probably a difference in WB - the EXIF says the white balance was manual, so it could well be human error.
Brodel
Quote - (Pandya @ Jun 29 2008, 13:21) *
I see a minor yellow tint to the 400D image. Probably a difference in WB - the EXIF says the white balance was manual, so it could well be human error.


Yea, that is what I was thinking. It just seemed strange that there was no mention of it as it seems quite obvious in the pictures.
Nicholas-c
Yellow tint would mean the WB is wrong

Edit: nvm already been said tongue.gif
tuckeratlarge
I am as un-proffesnial as you can get but I would say the 350d image is sharper as well.
giga
From first hand, I can tell you that there's really virtually not much difference in image quality between 350D and 400D.

If anything though, the 400D is a better camera though for its upgrades in the AF, LCD, and buffer.
russellc
Quote - (giga @ Jun 29 2008, 17:44) *
From first hand, I can tell you that there's really virtually not much difference in image quality between 350D and 400D.

If anything though, the 400D is a better camera though for its upgrades in the AF, LCD, and buffer.

Really? I have been eyeing the 350D and people have said it is better than the 400D. Should I go through the trouble of looking for a 350D (since it is cheaper at the moment) or should I wait for a possible price drop on the 400D? I heard that Canon is going to be releasing/has released a new camera, which will result in price drops...
giga
Quote - (russellc @ Jun 29 2008, 17:55) *
Really? I have been eyeing the 350D and people have said it is better than the 400D. Should I go through the trouble of looking for a 350D (since it is cheaper at the moment) or should I wait for a possible price drop on the 400D? I heard that Canon is going to be releasing/has released a new camera, which will result in price drops...

Who told you that? confused.gif
russellc
Quote - (giga @ Jun 29 2008, 17:57) *
Who told you that? confused.gif

One of my friends recently said something about a Canon 1000D. My coworkers also say to wait because it will soon be Canon's release cycle? Something to that effect. I'm not sure, I do not follow digital SLR news closely. I do know that the 400D is about $200 more expensive than the 350D which is my main concern right now. If the 350D offers the same as the 400D with exception of a few bells and whistles, then I would rather go for the 350D. But, I do know that you are a big digital SLR man around here, so I trust your advice/input if you have any. tongue.gif

DrunknMunky
I have the 350D and couldn't be more happy with it, an excellent camera thumbs_up.gif

I can see the very slight yellow tint in the 400d pic also, it's nothing excessive though. If you can over look it for the other features of the 400D, I'd go with it.
giga
Quote - (russellc @ Jun 29 2008, 18:02) *
One of my friends recently said something about a Canon 1000D. My coworkers also say to wait because it will soon be Canon's release cycle? Something to that effect. I'm not sure, I do not follow digital SLR news closely. I do know that the 400D is about $200 more expensive than the 350D which is my main concern right now. If the 350D offers the same as the 400D with exception of a few bells and whistles, then I would rather go for the 350D. But, I do know that you are a big digital SLR man around here, so I trust your advice/input if you have any. tongue.gif

1000D was released to compete with the D40--basically for P&S people wanting to migrate to a dslr. I'd say it's somewhat equal to a 350D though there are some differences (1.5FPS in RAW compared to 3fps on the 350D/400D, Live View vs none on 350D/450D)

I'd say 400D > 350D/1000D. Buy according to your budget--a good lens will make a better difference in IQ.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon_1000d/page2.asp
russellc
Quote - (giga @ Jun 29 2008, 18:09) *
1000D was released to compete with the D40--basically for P&S people wanting to migrate to a dslr. I'd say it's somewhat equal to a 350D though there are some differences (1.5FPS in RAW compared to 3fps on the 350D/400D, Live View vs none on 350D/450D)

I'd say 400D > 350D/1000D. Buy according to your budget--a good lens will make a better difference in IQ.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon_1000d/page2.asp

With that it mind, would you not say that it is very possible there may be a price drop in the 400D? If there is, I may just go with the 400D since the 350D is currently being phased out as far as I understand. If not, then I will go out on more of a limb to find the 350D since it is fairly inexpensive.
giga
Quote - (russellc @ Jun 29 2008, 18:33) *
With that it mind, would you not say that it is very possible there may be a price drop in the 400D? If there is, I may just go with the 400D since the 350D is currently being phased out as far as I understand. If not, then I will go out on more of a limb to find the 350D since it is fairly inexpensive.

350D has been phased out for some time. (at least Amazon or BH doesn't sell it anymore).

As for price drops, I'm not sure as Canon refreshed their entire Rebel line (450D and 1000D) and are going to concentrate on their Pro equipment this fall.

350D and 400D are both good. I owned the 350D for several months and bought my dad a 400D. Body wise they're very similar but of course the main upgrades were the AF, LCD, and buffer.
russellc
Quote - (giga @ Jun 29 2008, 18:40) *
350D has been phased out for some time. (at least Amazon or BH doesn't sell it anymore).

As for price drops, I'm not sure as Canon refreshed their entire Rebel line (450D and 1000D) and are going to concentrate on their Pro equipment this fall.

350D and 400D are both good. I owned the 350D for several months and bought my dad a 400D. Body wise they're very similar but of course the main upgrades were the AF, LCD, and buffer.

Would you say the 450D is better than the 350D significantly in terms of image quality or are the difference relatively negligible? This will be my first digital SLR so I'm not really sure what to look for, to be honest.
giga
Quote - (russellc @ Jun 29 2008, 18:46) *
Would you say the 450D is better than the 350D significantly in terms of image quality or are the difference relatively negligible? This will be my first digital SLR so I'm not really sure what to look for, to be honest.

It's certainly better at higher ISOs, but not night and day difference.

Remember, bodies come and ago--but lenses will stay with you forever. Glass is #1 in my books for getting good image quality. If you have a limited budget, spend less on the body and more on the lens.

ISO1600: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews...era-Review.aspx

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russellc
Quote - (giga @ Jun 29 2008, 18:59) *
It's certainly better at higher ISOs, but not night and day difference.

Remember, bodies come and ago--but lenses will stay with you forever. Glass is #1 in my books for getting good image quality. If you have a limited budget, spend less on the body and more on the lens.

ISO1600: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews...era-Review.aspx

[snip]

Thanks for that. I think I might go for the 350D then. They have it at a Walmart near me for $509 before taxes. Although I think I might think it over the next few days so I can also wait for my next paycheque.
giga
Quote - (russellc @ Jun 29 2008, 19:29) *
Thanks for that. I think I might go for the 350D then. They have it at a Walmart near me for $509 before taxes.

With a lens?
russellc
Quote - (giga @ Jun 29 2008, 19:34) *
With a lens?

I'm not sure. I think since it is Walmart, it comes with a lens. I might go down there and take a look... On second thought, maybe I won't go down there tonight. I'll just go on Wednesday when I actually intend to get it (after receiving my paycheque and thinking it over).

EDIT: The deal appears to be on their website too and it says that it comes with a lens.
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