I would like to see the app Envy included in to shift as it make installing your Ati/AMD or Nvidia card driver alot easier as it will detect the model of your graphic card and install the appropriate driver. in a gui program and here is the link to the program http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html

^^^ Ubuntu (and hence, Shift) already detects and prompts the user to install the nVidia driver, if he/she chooses with a simple pop-up bubble to be clicked.

I have personally avoided envy, mostly because of reported problems when using envy.

So, with ATI being the unknown for me, you are looking at using envy to install only ATI card drivers?

The problem with Envy, at least back six months ago when I tried it, is it makes it too easy for you to install the wrong driver, which can bork your system. Ubuntu already gets it right.

but shift linux is not Ubuntu so why are we compairing it to Ubuntu or why are we even talking about it here. if you want to base it on ubuntu that fine but i suggest we stop refreing shif linux or comping it to becse i was asking for you guy to add this in shif linux not Ubuntu i thnk if there are some problem with it I thnk you could make it work a littel betterand maby it could be shify linux app if you are just going to rely on the Ubuntu bevs to do every thing then just change a few things around why even continue with this why not use linux from scratch like they i really love shf linux so far but if it going to not be the qualty like it was then i may have to find a new distro to rely on

Well, Shift Linux is based off of Ubuntu, which is a Debian based operating system. The same goes for such distros as Knoppix. If it will work on Ubuntu, it should work on Shift.

then can you add it to shift

The last time I used Envy, it managed to completely break X and the X config file, I had to get in and edit the files so it'd work again.

The restricted drivers manager is much better than envy.

but envy will automaticly download and instal the lastest driver for the video card that you need

You'e asking them to add a tool to Shift when a tool that does the same thing only with less bugs allready exists

And alot of the time, it gets it wrong, which means you need to manually edit xorg.conf and reconfigure everything yourself, which the average user wont be able to do.

That's a risk we can't afford to take.

So does the restricted drivers manager.

And it keeps it up to date with kernel versions.