About Shellstyles:

The default theme named shellstyle.dll must be in a folder called "normal"

example: C:\WINDOWS\Resources\Themes\Classix\Shell\NormalColor...shellstyle.dll

Then any more added shellstyle folders within the themes shell folder, must have same name as sub theme.

example: (say Classix has a sub theme called Classix1)
C:\WINDOWS\Resources\Themes\Classix\Shell\Classix1...shellstyle.dll

hope this helps PRLYago

The I like the new start menu for us who use the Classic login and don't have a userpic (because we have one account and our Administrator account that can't be seen on the normal Windows XP logon...and our own computers. ).

For those of you who may still want the previous release of Classix, they are still available on my mirror (the only one enabled ATM on the Classix Mailing List page - will fix that soon giga ).

To access them, simply copy and paste the URL into the application you are going to use to download the files, and add "_old" to the filename (before the ".rar" extension of course).

If you people would read what I post you'd know about the shellstyles being fudged


The start button is going to be the one with the 'Start' text, if you don't like it you can very easily change it back to the other start button with reshacker. It'll take you all of 15 seconds to do this or your money back, guaranteed.

I happen to love the new start menu, I don't think I'm alone.

The update will be ready in a few hours.

sad sad sad

gigatexel....

anyway to have the old lookin start menu but with all the updated feature...if its too much to put the new start button dont go for it ill do the job...but new colors seems cool and all but i really like to get bigger start menu and the user pic...think its possible for you to do last update for this old one plz plz ??

thx


bug

Great work, gigatexel and the rest of the Classix team! Gigatexel, how about a little faq in the readme about changing startbutton in reshacker or stylebuilder?

To all the Classix skinners esp. giga and sd:

This really is such a massive project right now, certainly one that has captured the imagination of a load of us on Neowin (myself included). I find that I have three different versions of the vs on my machine, and am keen to keep up to date, which leads me to my point:

I have heard talk of a homepage at some stage but it would be sooo good to have a repository of all the different versions (showing start menus, start button et al.), wmp skins etc.

On a different note, I do like the new version but am gonna stick with the previous one with the two tone grey start panel, user pic and the small square start button. I like the new one... but just not enough.

Just my $0.02 guys

same as cheekkymonkey for me

While everyone complains about the new default start-button-to-be, I suppose that I will throw my 2 cents in. I LOVE the new button and am one of the many who think it should be default as gigatexel has said will happen. It's totally awesome and one of the start buttons has to be default...If you don't know how to change it (if you don't like), I'm sure someone can tell you how.

Later.

You guys have given me a colossal headache, congrats! lol j/k

Sorry BuG, really I am, I wish I could please everyone but I'm not going to make a version with the old start menu. cheekymonkey's idea is great and I hope to do something like that soon.

M.Star: I think JagedEdge was working on a FAQ and it's sorely needed. I'll have to get in contact with him to find out if it's done.

Thanks deron.

Currently you can still download the second (I believe it's the second, lost track) and the current (not the newest, which giga hasn't released yet) versions of the theme from the link in my sig (you guys should know the routine by now ).

There is a slight delay on the Classix web page/site due to some scheduling conflicts and such, but one of the ideas I've had is for a visual timeline of the different stages the theme has gone through as well as having the different versions available for download (rather depends on bandwidth). For Winamp skins and such, this could work, but I think the focus will probably be just in displaying the current versions to start.

As soon as the page/site is up, it will include a general FAQ that includes information on modding the theme and various skins.

For those of you who have been paying attention, gigatexel and saint dark (they have the final say on this of course) are ok with what I've dubbed "modpacks". Basically someone mods the theme or a skin and then packages the files and instructions necessary to perform the mod. This will keep the load off of giga and sd for changes to the theme (as well as the skin authors) that they may not really want done. I am trying to work out a system for submitting these (automatic and moderated) and would have no problem hosting them (unless you guys absolutely rape me on bandwidth ). Yadda yadda yadda.

As always, the final say is with giga. Edit: who has apparently beaten me to the punch.

Giga I pmed you, awaiting response.

Get IM and it'll be a 1000x easier to contact me.

I want to announce an union, this is not going to be the only skin made by gigatexel and me together, we are now a new skinning duo, no future plans yet but we have some ideas, stay tunned...

^ could it be classix 2???

ooohh wow this is great news!! if you guys can come up with this theme, think of what you will be able to do in the future!
i cannot wait to see this new ideas *wets his pants in excitement

mxp: Classix 2 is what was released yesterday.

i mean like a new total mod of classix in this case 3 or 4

Saint-Dark get on msn man, you never are wanna chat peace

Sweet about the.. Union...

Oh yeah, I'm using the ported Gnome cursors from the TCPort with this. I was wondering what YZ Toolbar or hack for your Explorer toolbar you guys are using with this theme. Give a good screenshot too and download links.

Hey guys. I feel like starting to revise the FAQ for everything new, so any suggestions would be appreciated.



I change my Shell32 to change toolbar icons. Sorry.

BTW, [saint dark], this new alliance sounds great! Can I be part of it?

everyone is part of it, giga and me are just the stylers, classix is a more than two people efforts, is a community work

This is my last reply here in 4 days, Im leaving for a school trip, see you in 4 days

^ noooo saint nooooooooo

don't leave us

Have fun. And I'm glad Classix is going whole community finally. This'll be great! BTW, as I asked earlier, any suggestions for the FAQ? I'll start right away and see if I can get a design done. Giga, if you could make a nice banner for it, as I'm gonna covert it to HTML to make it easy to navigate.

Is there a Winamp2.9 skin anywhere?

It comes in the new classix version...Look in the goodies folder and read the readme in the winamp folder...

JagedEdge can you list the questions you've got so far? Do we have 'How do I replace the start button' and 'Is there a Winamp 2.9 skin anywhere?' answered?

Thanks Orphic

Well, first you gotta fix that bug with the new startbutton.

Here is a plan possibily giga could do,
Use the hosting that I would provide for say 150mb and take advantage of directory listening.
Create folders like Classix, Then once in that Visual Style - Winamp -, etc, you can go into Visual Style and have archived things. The first release, second released, new release, all there and nicely RARED at best.

I think that would be a great idea!

Umm what bug?!

:edit: Do you mean when you replace the startbutton for the one with 'Start' text and it gets cut off? Oh that's been fixed ages ago Actually that was fixed in this coming update.

There is no bug with the new start button.

Well then release it! BTW: Here's what I plan on doing for my new FAQ type thingy:



Note: Some formatting was lost when quoting this that would be in the final version

im looking forward to see a classix white version...

The update is ready, all known bugs have been fixed. Download links in my first post. Enjoy guys, it's time for me to take a little break.

Update 3/26/03 - Fixed Blue and Green Shellstyles, start button changed to the one with 'Start' text, minor cosmetic fixes.

Great update. I'll second the request for a Zoomplayer skin

I replaced my Shell32 with BlueCurve. My toolbar icons are still the same.

Not if you use small icons.

SWEET. Didn't know. Stupid me!

Anyway, about the update let me make a few comments to gigatexel:

The ergonomic theme for Classix (not SD) now has Grey colored highlights when the mouse moves over items in the start panel which is not the case in ClassixSD, nor WAS it the case before the update.

The 'All Programs' bug was fixed perfectly.

It is also my opinion that the Start Button is too far to the left. Try content margins of (-50, 75, 1, 1). I'm sure you'll like it better gigatexel.

Nice theme

Would you people stop bitching about the start button. "deron!"

I think deron is just trying to help out a little, but there has been a little too much "I don't like that Start button, you need to change it" type talk. *shrug* What can we expect, it's the "gimme gimme gimme" generation, or trend rather. Obviously we all like different things, but seriously folks (and this isn't directed towards you deron as you obviously know how to do this), if you want something changed enough, learn to do it on your own. It is honestly not that hard to do.

Oh yeah.

I'm not complaining or *TRYING* to be a nuissance, I'm in a way trying to give pointers to gigatexel for the further development of the theme. Not even saying change this or that but more or less trying to help with the values and placements of things on the theme. More or less what I'd call cosmetic bugs. I'm not saying change the startbutton it sucks mindlessly. I'm saying it appears to me that it needs to be moved a tad.

Just like with the All Programs background bug which I mentioned was still prevalent in the 3/25 release and gigatexel fixed it in the 3/26 release which I commended him for.

Overall, I appologize to those of you that are angered by my comments. I'm just trying to give helpful pointers to gigatexel. I'm not a lamer who is complaining and couldn't make the modifications myself. As a matter of fact: I already have.

Anyway, I guess it's not my place to poing out the bugs or what IMO are placement errors so I guess I should just keep my mouth shut and let gigatexel do the work himself. Obviously he's did a h3ll of a job so far . It's just that being a themer myself I see these things and try to voice them. However, I need to realize that this isn't my theme. Sorry for being a nuissance. My lips are now .

Deron I appreciate you pointing out issues that you believe need to be fixed but to some it might seem like you're nitpicking. You might also seem to be giving the impression that I have no idea what I'm doing, people have to keep in mind that with a theme as large as this there's bound to be an oversight here and there. Perfection is something I strive for but alas being human has its limitations.

As for the start button, I like where it is that's why I put it there.

No need to apologize, I've always been open to comments and constructive criticism and that's exactly what you've given me.

Glad to see that I didn't offend you at least. I commend you on an excellent job on the classix style. It is a HUGE project, and unquestionably things can be overlooked fairly easily when you're working at such a wide scale. Luckily (I guess), I've never created a theme of such magnitude where I have had to include so many color schemes, etc. to make everyone happy. So I can't totally relate, but I can imagine how difficult it must be to keep track of every single pixel.

I LOVE the classix style and until you and saint dark come out with something better I'm sure I'll be using this.

Hopefully you nor anybody else gets the impression as you have pointed out that I believe that you don't know what you're doing. With a project of this magnitude there are bound to be little minute things that popup. When it goes final and there are no more MAJOR changes to be made I'm sure you'll make the updates so that every portion is completely bugless. It is OBVIOUS that you know what you're doing...I'm sure even that you know ALOT more than I do, so I HOPE nobody gets the impression that I'm some narcissist who thinks I'm better than you and that you are a low-level themer.

Great job and keep up the work.

Yeah, I hope you understood my comments weren't directed towards you deron, just some others.

I'm really working on that FAQ for all you guys! Giga, do you have ANY form of IM at all?

white color version?

^ i believe its in the works

I know I am not supposed to nitpick, and truthfully it doesn't bother me, but in the appearance - color window it has 'gray' but the file folder has it listed as 'grey' not sure if that was on purpose (some dialects spell it like that).

UPDATE - i checked it out and it isn't true anymore - /me goes back to dumb dumb seat

I highly doubt it. Grey is the closest you're gonna get unless you make your own white.

BTW, I was wonderin' what you people use for a Phoenix/Mozilla theme for this VS.