I really love apple and i grew up on its from 7.5.3 all the way until os 9. about a year ago i purchased a macbook and the screen was just not big enough and it chafed my wrists terribly, so i took it back and got a macbook pro. I really do like the mac os, but not this hardware. I really feel that i could have gotten more for the buck with a pc laptop and this thing really does chaif the heck outa my wrists as well. looks like i'm going to sell it and hopefully the new versions will be out very soon or i'll buy an imac and get a pc for my laptop.

do you guys have this same wrist chafing problem?

What's going on this is the 3rd or 4th complain I read about mac's today.

i will trade you a Gateway notebook with xp, 1gb ram 40gb sata HDD, 128 intel graphics card. wireless, CD player DVD burner, 15in screen.

Wrist chafing problem?

Unless you are resting your wrists on sandpaper, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. I've been using a MacBook Pro for over a year now, and I touch-type pretty bloody quickly - maybe it's not the MacBook Pro, but the way you use the wrist rests. You could have got more for your buck with a PC laptop? Wrist rests aren't a PC/Mac thing, they're mostly the same throughout most of the products.

Like I said, it looks like a usability problem, or even a user problem, not Mac VS PC thing.

It's not even a hardware problem, it's a usabilty problem.

He wasn't stating the intention of the OS, its because Mac uses their own proprietary OS that you misunderstood as being a Windows/Mac thing. Anyways it wouldn't matter based upon machine. It is probably a new keyboard layout that you are having a bit of a hard time getting used to. Give yourself some time and you will be used to the layout and hopefully will not have any more chafing.

That is the MOST pathetic/lame/annoying/silly/retarded complaint I've ever heard about ANY computer...

And if you've "grown up" on apple hardware, you should have been well aware that apple's hardware is a bit more expensive than a windows based laptop, and that's because you're buying OSX. No other manufacturer can offer that.

I don't get any wrist chafing... but I totally agree. I like OS X, but if I had known the hardware was going to be such rubbish, I would have saved some money and gone for a Windows notebook.

In case you're wondering, my list of issues includes the crazy amount of heat the thing produces (the keyboard has literally been too hot to touch), the noisy and poorly performing cooling system, an incredibly picky and pretty much useless SuperDrive, a display data cable that died (and was a huge pain to replace), poor battery life (I barely put 70 cycles on the factory battery before it lost most of its capacity). I realize that there are compromises that have to be made when buying a laptop, but I find myself wondering why I actually paid a premium for this.

i thought it was because of a reliability standpoint, only had 1 kernel panic in over a year of operation ( forget what i was trying to do, but it was first day i got it ).

literally i have not seen any windows PC come close to that.

but could also argue because OSx isnt designed to support everything under the sun, why it doesnt kernel panic as much

Shihchiun - how is the superdrive useless unless you dont burn DVD/CD's ? other then that it does the exact same as a PC Equiv
as far as the cycles, did you calibrate it, im over 80 and health is 94% ( acording to iStat ) and can kick about 2+ hours on better performace

your kidding right? i mean if the hardware is bothering the hell out of your wrists its not a big problem for you? I've had many dell laptops and have never had this issue. I love macs, i do, i'm just saying that their laptops have a horrible wrist chafing problem. This isn't a mac vs pc thing its just a hardware design problem that bothers me. I'm just saying i hope that they resolve this on the next hardware design. i'm gonna get a imac, so chill out

yes i use my laptop in bed all the time, and i'm sure if i just used it on a my desk i wouldn't have the issue, but it is a laptop...

http://pixpulse.blogspot.com/2007/05/my-un...acbook-pro.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php...0080&page=2
http://himac.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/macbook-sharp-corners/

I've never seen a drive so picky when it comes to blank media. Even if I wanted to burn a DVD, I wouldn't be able to. People say you "just have to find the right media," but seriously, I don't have the time for that. I've got a stack of 100 DVDs... the SuperDrive would burn some at the top, but at soon as I reached the middle of the stack it wouldn't even recognize the disc. Then I had some rewritable discs, which it couldn't handle either. Apparently this is a known issue that affects all slot-loading drives... and the noise. Ugh. Do I just have a defective drive? Maybe, but it's a huge turnoff when Apple is supposed to have a reputation for "better" hardware. I ended up buying an external drive, which, for some reason or another, OS X doesn't really want to use. It's fantastic. This is the first computer I've ever owned that made me think I should have purchased the extended warranty (AppleCare).


I calibrated the thing like once... but the thing is, Apple's own documentation says the battery is supposed to last at least 300 cycles before seriously deteriorating. Calibration is, according to Apple, something that's totally optional (read the documentation on battery calibration - they don't even say that calibration is recommended, just something that you "can" do). I literally went from being able to get 3.5 hours to barely 1 overnight.

Honestly, the wrist scratching thing is a ridiculous excuse. If it's that bad take a bit of sandpaper and sand the edge down a bit so it's smooth. PROBLEM SOLVED.

You typically don't hear of chafing from typing on a computer... I mean, they're made out of plastic. There's millions of apple lap tops out there, and this is the first I've ever heard of "chafing" problems. I find it silly. You must be doing something wrong, but I can't imagine how somebody can mess up typing.

Do you move your arms back and forth constantly? I'm trying to picture how you get chafing, because chafing comes from friction, and if you're just siting there typing, there can't be all that much friction...

You should get wrist pads.

I have this same problem with the hardware.

Once I cut back on my masturbation regiment the wrist chafing went away almost completely.

Regiment? You had a squad of soldiers do it for you?

Did you mean "regime"?

... a squad of hot Swedish blond FEMALE soldiers!

Neither was the person you're replying to arguing about the OS. He was talking about the hardware as well. Note the "Mac vs. PC" not "Mac OS vs Windows"
I doubt it's the keyboard layout that he's not used to


No, it's a notebook/desktop replacement. They haven't been called laptops for years, perhaps it's just you who thinks they are...

I have been using a MacBook Pro for the last ~8 months and use the built-in keyboard quite frequently when I am on-the-go (I use a wireless keyboard and mouse when I am at home) and never once have I had any discomfort whatsoever with the wrist rests. I actually find that the wrist rests on the MacBook Pro are more comfortable than any other notebook computer I have owned.

With that being said, I do not think that you need to worry about being "ripped off" when it comes to the MacBook or the MacBook Pro, they are both very powerful and capable machines which will last for quite some time.

He probably meant it as a verb.

No. What's pathetic is you defending a product which has issues with a paying customer.

Who cares if the laptop is in general more expensive and comes with OSX? If you can't use it, it's worthless.

I use the MacBook's built-in keyboard and use a wireless mouse, so far I haven't had any problems or any complaints about anything. Afterall your using a laptop, the main goal is portability, so I'd imagine you would have to sacrifice a level of comfort.

huh...?

ive been using laptops my whole life now and ive never experienced something like that. bad for you, really.

other than that, ive never had any issues with my late 2006 macbook such as a bad superdrive or bad display cables.
i also have like 200 battery cycles and still got almost 98% of the capacity, according to coconutbattery and my own experience...

maybe you were just a little unlucky?

but if it really hurts your wrists that bad... go and replace it. get a windows laptop...
but im sure you will experience the same thing here aswell...
laptops more or less all... look the same...

I can understand the wrist chaffing, i sometimes get it on my macbook depending on how i have it position on the desk or lap. Perhaps you could get a stand or something for your lap/desk which would alter it's position? If not then i guess you'll have to change to a PC laptop.

As for the battery i also have a macbook from late 2006, it's been used pretty much every day since purchase, for a variety of tasks, some very intensive others not. I know people say that modern batteries don't have memory but ive always run the battery down to 5% odd before putting it on charge.

Coconut battery reports that my current battery capacity is 5165mAh, the original capcity was 5020mAh. It's actually slightly over a 100% even though coconut reports it at 100%.

It states that it's had 536 batter load cycles and the age of my mac is 23 months.

So the person with the battery problem either has a defective battery or is not properly maintaining the battery.

more for the buck? you could gotten 8 times for the buck lol.

and you really think buying a windows laptop will help? after all they are all designed the same, more or less...

DaDog V12, what I was saying had nothing to do with the OS at all. I'm well aware what Apple does with their own OS.



What he is saying there, that in terms of the wrist pads - that a PC (i.e. NON MAC) based computer would be better than his MacBook Pro.



The keyboard layout isn't really all that different to a PC, but some of the spacings and stuff can cause people to place their wrists/hands a little differently.

Despite DaDog V12's misunderstanding of what I was saying, I still reiterate that it looks like a usability problem, or even a user problem, not Mac VS PC thing. It's not even a hardware problem, it's a usabilty problem. This wrist chafing thing isn't something that really differentiates between Mac or PC.