illustrick
Sep 2 2008, 04:28
ok, so my friend and i are trying to install osx on a partion of his c drive, which has windows on it. and we cant figure out how to boot to osx once it is installed, is there a special button we have to hold to select at the boot sequence?
_illustrick
rashidkaviani
Sep 2 2008, 04:37
do you have apple hardware and just have windows installed? would you like to dual boot on your apple hardware...?
illustrick
Sep 2 2008, 05:04
he built a custom computer, and bought a copy of osx, and wanted to do this.
I thought you can talk about it on Neowin now?
By that I mean running OSX on non-native hardware -
http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/in...hp/t639781.html
Quote - (koppit @ Sep 2 2008, 06:07)

I thought you can talk about it on Neowin now?
By that I mean running OSX on non-native hardware -
http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/in...hp/t639781.htmlI've heard more than one person say, "it's OK now." The thing is, I don't really know and do not want another warning for talking about OS ::no carrier::
In any case, you're looking for a DUAL BOOT solution, whether it be *unix, linux, etc ... Acronis OS Selector will do the trick, or if you want something more in depth, GRUB.
Don't install another OS on the same partition as Windows, it needs its own, at least 10gb, and you should format it to the native file system before installing.
I think that's a pretty general bit of info, nothing risque there?
illustrick
Sep 2 2008, 05:22
Quote - (koppit @ Sep 2 2008, 01:13)

In any case, you're looking for a DUAL BOOT solution, whether it be *unix, linux, etc ... Acronis OS Selector will do the trick, or if you want something more in depth, GRUB.
Don't install another OS on the same partition as Windows, it needs its own, at least 10gb, and you should format it to the native file system before installing.
I think that's a pretty general bit of info, nothing risque there?
it is installed on is installed on a partion that doesn't have windows on it. if windows was C:, this would be E:. would the formatting of the drive need to be specific, cause i think it is formatted FAT 32.
offroadaaron
Sep 2 2008, 05:26
its easier to install it to a different HDD but it is possible to install it on the same drive you just need something like grub to point where to boot from.
google some guides im sure there are heaps.
this is also good to look at.
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/HCL_10.5.2
rashidkaviani
Sep 2 2008, 05:37
you will find a lot of information at the x86 forums. if you bought osx yourself and have a dvd of the installation, then it won't work on windows anyways, not sure how you got it installed. you need to patch it and recompile the image with windows drivers and other things to make it install right.
wiki.osx86project.org is the place to find more information on that.
joker999
Sep 2 2008, 05:53
Quote - (illustrick @ Sep 2 2008, 17:22)

are you kidding me? I BOUGHT IT, how is this illegal? and why the hell are you so self righteous? let me guess you are some mac fanboy? or some motherf**ing prick that works for apple trolling the forums looking for someone like me trying to get some damn help, trying to get some **** done in my life and you are here ****ing it all up. thanks.
ps. **** you.
it is installed on is installed on a partion that doesn't have windows on it. if windows was C:, this would be E:. would the formatting of the drive need to be specific, cause i think it is formatted FAT 32.
We're just follow neowin rules, Too bad! Your swear isn't good for your brain. Go back to school and learn how to be nice to talk about it.
Now....Pi, sorry i cant say that. However you know what im gonna say.
ps: im still laugh at your face.
Circaflex
Sep 2 2008, 05:56
Quote - (39 Thieves @ Sep 1 2008, 22:05)

Illegal. You won't get help for that here. Sorry.
lol i hope your joking, you actually can get help here for this now.
Hell-In-A-Handbasket
Sep 2 2008, 05:58
if you actually READ the agreement in the box, you will see you need Mac Hardware to isntall it, OSX is not like windows, it is not a Common Generic PC Compatible OS, it is a proprietary OS like PalmOS.
you cannot isntall it because you do not have the compatible system requirements ( AKA a MAC )
and as a direct response, it doesn't matter if you were an idiot and bought it, and caling people a Fanboy just shows that you are to stupid to even come up with a decent rebuttal, and what exactially are you trying to get done in your life that you need to install OSX on a PC, because you havent yet figured out how to use google, im shure you havent gotten the inkling that everything on the MAC has a direct equivalent on the PC.
39 Thieves
Sep 2 2008, 05:59
Quote - (Circaflex @ Sep 2 2008, 00:56)

lol i hope your joking, you actually can get help here for this now.
When the hell did they change their opinions on that here? I thought this place walked on eggshells about anything even remotely related to anything illegal?
Hell-In-A-Handbasket
Sep 2 2008, 06:07
they changed their stance when they got on Psystars side, they are using the same EULA lawsuit back in the Pre Windows days i think that says cant Tie Software to Hardware.
way i see it, is its Apple's OS, they can do what they want with it, if they want to Tie their OS to their hardware they can
Blackberry does it and even requires their own Server software, Palm does it with PalmOS. Only reason Apple is getting flac is because people are desperate for alternatives due to Vista ( still have no idea why people hate vista, its a good OS).
Quote - (39 Thieves @ Sep 2 2008, 01:59)

When the hell did they change their opinions on that here? I thought this place walked on eggshells about anything even remotely related to anything illegal?

offroadaaron
Sep 2 2008, 06:18
To everyone in this thread, OSx86 is allowed to be discussed on this forum. Please stop trolling.
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=639781
Darrian
Sep 2 2008, 06:22
Installing OSX on a non-Mac is against their EULA, but it is not illegal. There is a thread here, if you can't find the answers you're looking for search Google for Hackintosh.
If you're using Vista - use EasyBCD to create the bootloader.
There are plenty of guides for dual booting out there though, they're all pretty easy to follow, shouldn't be too much trouble.
Quote - (Hadez @ Sep 2 2008, 06:35)

If you're using Vista - use EasyBCD to create the bootloader.
There are plenty of guides for dual booting out there though, they're all pretty easy to follow, shouldn't be too much trouble.
Thanks! I haven't even heard of this, I was doing it manually
-Hiroshi-
Sep 2 2008, 07:33
Glad I can talk about it finally, I've been trying to get OS X to run on my machine for EONS it seems, I finally find a disk that might be able to do it and I run out of DVDs, go figure right?
Thread CleanedBefore several people go trolling the "rules" again, please read this thread:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=639781. Installing OSX on non-Apple hardware
is indeed a breach of the EULA, however, policing the EULA is a civil matter, not a legal one, therefore it is
not illegal to install OSX on non-Apple hardware.
Quote - (-Hiroshi- @ Sep 2 2008, 03:33)

Glad I can talk about it finally, I've been trying to get OS X to run on my machine for EONS it seems, I finally find a disk that might be able to do it and I run out of DVDs, go figure right?
You found a disc?
Richard Hammond
Sep 2 2008, 10:31
Quote - (giga @ Sep 2 2008, 11:16)

You found a disc?
Dont bait him into saying that hes not using the legitimate OSX DVD, you and i both know what he is insinuating.
markjensen
Sep 2 2008, 11:34
Quote - (Richard Hammond @ Sep 2 2008, 05:31)

Dont bait him into saying that hes not using the legitimate OSX DVD, you and i both know what he is insinuating.
Agreed. This "Install from partition" obviously means "downloaded", not "bought the boxed set, but wanted to rip it to my hard drive for giggles".
And his post
Quote -
are you kidding me? I BOUGHT IT, how is this illegal? and why the hell are you so self righteous? let me guess you are some mac fanboy? or some motherf**ing prick that works for apple trolling the forums looking for someone like me trying to get some damn help, trying to get some **** done in my life and you are here ****ing it all up. thanks.
ps. **** you.
shows a lack of maturity and self-control.
Well, that link to the osx86project has been given, and that has everything you'll ever need to know about getting osx to work on non-Mac branded hardware...
illustrick
Sep 2 2008, 21:03
Quote - (joker999 @ Sep 2 2008, 01:53)

We're just follow neowin rules, Too bad! Your swear isn't good for your brain. Go back to school and learn how to be nice to talk about it.
Now....Pi, sorry i cant say that. However you know what im gonna say.
ps: im still laugh at your face.
haha, your busting on my for cussing, when you have the grammar of a third grader.
markjensen
Sep 2 2008, 21:39
Quote - (illustrick @ Sep 2 2008, 16:03)

haha, your busting on my for cussing, when you have the grammar of a third grader.
I love it when people use bad grammar to complain about someone else's grammar.
It is "you're" and "me" in the statement "
you're busting on
me for cussing".
nelsona
Sep 2 2008, 23:30
Just browse the forums at
http://www.insanelymac.com/You'll find more info there then you know what to do with.
Quote - (bmaher @ Sep 2 2008, 10:19)

Thread CleanedBefore several people go trolling the "rules" again, please read this thread:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=639781. Installing OSX on non-Apple hardware
is indeed a breach of the EULA, however, policing the EULA is a civil matter, not a legal one, therefore it is
not illegal to install OSX on non-Apple hardware.
So does this mean people will get a warning removed if they got one for talking about OS X86 and the like? Cause that would be kinda nice, you know.. since it's OK to do now.....
markjensen
Sep 3 2008, 00:07
Quote - (RAID 0 @ Sep 2 2008, 18:39)

So does this mean people will get a warning removed if they got one for talking about OS X86 and the like? Cause that would be kinda nice, you know.. since it's OK to do now.....
If it was against the rules when it was issued... Guess what?
GreyWolfSC
Sep 3 2008, 00:11
Quote - (39 Thieves @ Sep 2 2008, 01:59)

When the hell did they change their opinions on that here? I thought this place walked on eggshells about anything even remotely related to anything illegal?

Because violating a EULA is a support issue, not a criminal one.

You get no support if you install OSX on a standard PC. It's ok to discuss it here now as long as you don't discuss how to obtain it other than buying it from the store.
Quote - (markjensen @ Sep 3 2008, 01:07)

If it was against the rules when it was issued... Guess what?

The rules were wrong.
take Chain0 from your mac cd/dvd located /usr/standalone/i386/chain0 and put it in C:/ and in windows goto run and type C:/boot.ini and copy, C:\chain0="Mac OS x86" , and add it onto a new line..save it and when u boot u should see an option for both, select mac and on mine after that it says hit any key for boot options do that and then select mac again, could just be mine on the extra step or iono but i am runnin iAtkos v2.0i on my dell inspiron 1720 w/ XP Pro
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