Hi
well there is an article about the speed about the browsers like firefox google and others
but i did install firefox 3 and i did not find more fast then 2
a surprise is opera 9 , for me it's amazing fast , really more more more more fast then firefox
is only my imagination or it's real , opera is more fast then firefox
outside tests ,what is your opinion?
thanks
ViperAFK
Sep 5 2008, 14:33
Most speed test show firefox 3 is about as fast Opera 9. I currently have opera and firefox 3 installed and they seem the same to me.
medium_pimpin
Sep 5 2008, 14:33
I moved from FF to Opera a few months ago. I tried FF3 when it came out, but Opera is still much better. IMO.
yes
is what i feel
but i have a problem , i have tons of password in firefox
in there a way to export/import TO opera?
Quote - (drugo @ Sep 5 2008, 10:39)

yes
is what i feel
but i have a problem , i have tons of password in firefox
in there a way to export/import TO opera?
You might be able to import/export them into IE and then from Opera important them from IE.
The_Decryptor
Sep 5 2008, 15:14
They're about the same speed, and about the same for compatibility with the specs.
Try both and use the one you want, Firefox and Opera are both great browsers.
Hackersoft MS MVP
Sep 5 2008, 15:19
Firefox 3 has a huge bug with regards to cache. It doesn't refresh cache'd items, sending a 304 as it should.
Even when you hit CTRL + refresh.
I'd go with opera
I would proberly say Firefox but only because alot of websites are designed to work with firefox, not so much Opera! That's about it for me because I don't use addons because I filter sites threw a proxy

Nothing wrong with Opera though, it just renders pages too correctly
shakey_snake
Sep 5 2008, 15:26
Opera defies some of the typical windows conventions to make it seem faster. Scrolling for example, scrolls was faster than what you set scrolling to be in the control panel. Also, lots of things happen when the mouse button is pressed down, rather when it is released. Those things "seem" faster, but once you figure them out, they "seem" (to me) more annoying than helpful.
Opera also does some gimmicky kind of stuff when it comes to loading external stylesheets, that i can't see any practical use for.
But yeah, as far as actual non-gimmicky rendering performance, the latest versions are about the same.
Quote - (Hackersoft MS MVP @ Sep 5 2008, 11:19)

Firefox 3 has a huge bug with regards to cache. It doesn't refresh cache'd items, sending a 304 as it should.
Even when you hit CTRL + refresh.
I'd go with opera
It does for me using Fx 3.01.
thealexweb
Sep 5 2008, 15:31
For me Firefox 3 is much better than Opera 9
Crazysah
Sep 5 2008, 15:36
Opera 9 over FF 3.
DrunknMunky
Sep 5 2008, 15:38
Quote - (Emil Protalinski @ Sep 5 2008, 16:26)

Opera > Firefox
Definitely
I've tried both and have to say that Opera is the better choice.
For me it's much faster and uses less memory.
Hackersoft MS MVP
Sep 5 2008, 16:32
Quote - (Gary7 @ Sep 5 2008, 10:28)

It does for me using Fx 3.01.
Even on 3.0.1
http://www.west-wind.com/weblog/posts/469125.aspx
tsupersonic
Sep 5 2008, 16:49
Opera feels much faster, the interface is quicker to respond, and I also find that it eats less memory.
ThaCrip
Sep 5 2008, 17:01
Firefox 3 without question 'overall'

cause with it's overall feel and add-on support it's hard to beat Firefox when your looking at the overall performance/feel/addon's of the browsers.
cause it aint used opera in quite a while but the last time i tried it... the overall feel of it i felt was lacking something... but it was not bad by any means.
p.s. only add-on's i use are ADBlockPlus/NoScript/Tabscroller... most people will know adblock and noscript... so ill just explain Tabscroller... it basically just makes it so i can hold down the mouses right click and scroll with the mouse wheel to instantly swap between open tabs

, it takes a little while to get used to but once you do it's more efficient web browsing experience (primarily only for people who generally have multiple tabs open though... so if you dont use tabs then it will be useless for you).... and now that im used to it i would rather not go without that feature
Quote - (ThaCrip @ Sep 5 2008, 19:01)

Firefox 3 without question 'overall'

cause with it's overall feel and add-on support it's hard to beat Firefox when your looking at the overall performance/feel/addon's of the browsers.
cause it aint used opera in quite a while but the last time i tried it... the overall feel of it i felt was lacking something... but it was not bad by any means.
p.s. only add-on's i use are ADBlockPlus/NoScript/Tabscroller... most people will know adblock and noscript... so ill just explain Tabscroller... it basically just makes it so i can hold down the mouses right click and scroll with the mouse wheel to instantly swap between open tabs

, it takes a little while to get used to but once you do it's more efficient web browsing experience (primarily only for people who generally have multiple tabs open though... so if you dont use tabs then it will be useless for you).... and now that im used to it i would rather not go without that feature

Opera has an integrated ad-blocker, as well as a tabscroller (rightclick+scroll)
Quote - (Gary7 @ Sep 5 2008, 15:00)

You might be able to import/export them into IE and then from Opera important them from IE.
thanks
for the tip
how can i do it?
1) how can i export password
from firexox
to IE
2) how can i import password
form IE
to opera?
PiracyX
Sep 5 2008, 22:57
Opera is much better than Firefox.
Always has been, Always will.
BeLGaRaTh
Sep 5 2008, 23:04
I would use Opera if I could get rid of the annoying message everytime I start it stating
Quote -
There was a problem initialising Opera Mail.
Engine Init() failed
I cannot find anything regarding it, other than some gibberish about my opera mail box being ful, but I don't use opera mail at all, and have never set anything like that up. There also doesn't seem to be anything the options for mail

Contacting Opera is a no go as it appears I have to
pay for support? or at least purchase opera, which I will not be doing any time soon.
anonymous_user
Sep 5 2008, 23:06
You can post in their forums.
Septimus
Sep 5 2008, 23:16
Would say Opera, but it is a mess on OSX, so I have to use FF.
Opera definitely..I have to install at least 5 addons in Firefox just to get the basic features in Opera (speeddial, mouse gestures, paste and go, find as you type, wand)
Minimoose
Sep 6 2008, 19:56
Quote - (The_Decryptor @ Sep 5 2008, 16:14)

They're about the same speed, and about the same for compatibility with the specs.
Try both and use the one you want, Firefox and Opera are both great browsers.

I have both installed and I switch between the two, I started having problems with FF3 so I will wait until a new update comes out, for the moment I am using Opera 9.5 happily

Also I use Chrome for more general browsing since its faster for me than the others.
Quote - (BeLGaRaTh @ Sep 6 2008, 00:04)

Contacting Opera is a no go as it appears I have to
pay for support? or at least purchase opera, which I will not be doing any time soon.
$29 is a bit cheeky of them

Does Opera Mail just use your current email address? The same way as Windows Live Mail, I might be interested in using it.
BeLGaRaTh
Sep 6 2008, 20:12
Quote - (Minimoose @ Sep 6 2008, 20:56)

$29 is a bit cheeky of them

Does Opera Mail just use your current email address? The same way as Windows Live Mail, I might be interested in using it.
I have no idea on that as I don't have an opera email account, nor have I set up any email within the browser install. As mentioned I can find nothing in the settings either

If it wasn't for the error message every time I start it, I would use Opera
Quote - (Gary7 @ Sep 5 2008, 15:28)

It does for me using Fx 3.01.
is there a salution to fix it?
I'm inclined to say FireFox. It has some WICKED add ons. One of my favourites is the page drag one, as I can quickly scroll to the bottom of the page without going to my keyboard. The mouseless browsing add on is also pretty sweet. Maxthon 2 has a similar set of cool add ons and features, the best of which is undoing closing a tab. Opera's add ons strike me as more gimicky than useful.
Got a couple of opera questions, sorry to hijack.
Is there a way of backing up my passwords?
And in the personal toolbar, is there a way of arranging the links? Because in IE and FF it always sorts it alphabetically. Opera seems to do it in reverse.
HawkMan
Sep 10 2008, 10:08
Quote - (Dogan @ Sep 5 2008, 18:23)

Opera has an integrated ad-blocker, as well as a tabscroller (rightclick+scroll)

Opera also has the full noscript ability, you can block anythign you want easiest is through tools and quick preferences, that might only affect the site youa re on though. Not sure, I never really have a need for noscript.
As for speed, yeah opera is definately faster than other browsers, especially FF. most tests only test JS persomance anyway, and there's a lot more to loading a webpage than javascript, despite what chrome wants you to think. Opera also has the hands down most instant back forward cache loading, fast forware is also usefull, and you can just use the forward button on your mouse to go to the next results in searchs and many other sites with multiple pages.
Quote - (_X_ @ Sep 10 2008, 10:47)

Got a couple of opera questions, sorry to hijack.
Is there a way of backing up my passwords?
And in the personal toolbar, is there a way of arranging the links? Because in IE and FF it always sorts it alphabetically. Opera seems to do it in reverse.
Anyone?
splicer707
Sep 10 2008, 23:05
Out of those two, I prefer Firefox 3. But only by a slim margin and mostly because there are two addons for Firefox that Opera don't have.
Shadrack
Sep 14 2008, 17:43
I think the best thing to do is download and try them all out, then decide for yourself. But for what it is worth, I was using Firefox 3. I loved the features and the extensions. There seems to be some stability issues with Flash and Firefox on my install. Not sure if this is a widespread problem or not.
I didn't really care for Opera 9's look-and-feel. It also seemed to render pages slower than Firefox 3 did. My first visit to iGoogle resulted in some infinite refresh loop which was disappointing.
The Google browser, Chrome, isn't too bad. It definitely opens a lot faster than the other two. Page loads are extremely snappy on my system in comparison to IE, Opera, and Firefox. It doesn't have the same page zoom options that Firefox and Opera have (and I enjoy), just your basic font size increase/decrease options. Lacks add-ons (like some essential *ahem* page clean up extensions). I cannot comment on its stability yet. It does have a spellcheck

.
Hope that helps...
se7en.hu
Sep 14 2008, 17:47
latest webkits always felt fastest to me
thealexweb
Sep 14 2008, 17:51
Opera have tried hard to catch up with their rivals but it's still Firefox for me, Opera just isn't for most people.
xp1ode
Sep 14 2008, 17:56
Opera for me, been using it since ver5 and it hasn't let me down since. Of course i always go back and try whatever the other companies want to throw against Opera but they always fail, imo anyways. Although lately Opera has been acting very weird in my linux install, it crashes often but i know exactly why so no worries.
JorgeIvan
Sep 14 2008, 18:36
I like more Opera, for me its just fresh and clean.
BluDrgn
Sep 14 2008, 19:08
I use FF3 and Opera 9.6b; I have problems with opera crashing from time to time when a page with certain multimedia applets load (i havent figured out if it is flash, silverlight, or what- or if it might be a javascript error)
has anyone else had this problem?
Intelman
Sep 14 2008, 19:12
Opera for sure.
If you feel daring, you can use their latest builds...
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/I personally use Opera + Chrome.
xp1ode
Sep 14 2008, 19:17
Quote - (BluDrgn @ Sep 14 2008, 11:08)

I use FF3 and Opera 9.6b; I have problems with opera crashing from time to time when a page with certain multimedia applets load (i havent figured out if it is flash, silverlight, or what- or if it might be a javascript error)
has anyone else had this problem?
It is most probably flash. I have the same problem you have and been having it for quite some time actually. Are you on Linux or windows? I know my problem is because of flash on linux, if you are experiencing these crashes on windows, then it might be something else. But the good thing about using opera is, even with the crashing is still much faster than FF3 on my box. It uses alittle more ram than FF3 but i have plenty of ram for it so i'm not really worried about it.
BluDrgn
Sep 14 2008, 19:35
Quote - (xp1ode @ Sep 14 2008, 15:17)

It is most probably flash. I have the same problem you have and been having it for quite some time actually. Are you on Linux or windows? I know my problem is because of flash on linux, if you are experiencing these crashes on windows, then it might be something else. But the good thing about using opera is, even with the crashing is still much faster than FF3 on my box. It uses alittle more ram than FF3 but i have plenty of ram for it so i'm not really worried about it.
I am using Windows; before I use to get a lot of crashes on opera and ie and found out when I upgraded my antivirus from the free avast to the Kaspersky Antivirus a lot of the crashes went away and dont get that many on opera like I used to - I am thinking to that it might be the rendering engine that opera uses compared to the others (there was a post a few days ago talking about the different engines that the browsers use)
ArtOf_War
Sep 14 2008, 20:37
I also moved from Firefox to Opera when I got fed up with Firefox2 being so ****ing slow. After that I've tried Firefox3 which is a lot better but it's still not better than Opera. Unfortunately some javascript heavy sites run a bit slow in Opera (Facebook in particular) other than that, I'd take Opera over any other browser any day. It just FEELS fast and snappy
Intelman
Sep 14 2008, 20:40
Quote - (ArtOf_War @ Sep 14 2008, 20:37)

I also moved from Firefox to Opera when I got fed up with Firefox2 being so ****ing slow. After that I've tried Firefox3 which is a lot better but it's still not better than Opera. Unfortunately some javascript heavy sites run a bit slow in Opera (Facebook in particular) other than that, I'd take Opera over any other browser any day. It just FEELS fast and snappy
Opera's market share is so pathetic, even though I find people use it all the time, just like me.
I don't get it.
cyberbeing
Sep 14 2008, 21:04
Quote - (Hackersoft MS MVP @ Sep 5 2008, 08:19)

Firefox 3 has a huge bug with regards to cache. It doesn't refresh cache'd items, sending a 304 as it should.
Even when you hit CTRL + refresh.
I'd go with opera
That's because it's SHIFT + refresh in Firefox...
Dr_Asik
Sep 15 2008, 01:00
If there are a few Firefox addons you really like or if you like to customize your browser to death, then Firefox is the way to go. If you just want the best browser out of the box then Opera wins hands down.
Also, Opera has been the fastest and lightest browser in most tests for a couple of years now.
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