This is in regards to my post: Does "Muslim Massacre" game show a need for Internet regulation?

Muslim Massacre is a game which puts players in control of a soldier whose mission it is to rid the world of every last Muslim. Nice. The Internet-only game caused controversy amongst the Muslim population and has now been pulled from the website. In its place is a grovelling apology from the creator of the game. But is it genuine or merely some cowardly backtracking?

Last week saw Muslim Massacre get some mainstream and very public attention after it became an Internet meme. What started as a forum post pointing people towards the game turned in to a media circus, with newspapers and websites all around the world attacking the idea of the game and its creator, Sigvatr.

The game was Web-only, with poor graphics, and so really shouldn’t have got the amount of attention it did. Unfortunately, the subject matter was such that it was always bound to grab the headlines. While some believed it was intended as a parody of American foreign policy, others believed it to be just a downright sick game likely to add to the problem of Islamophobia.

I argued that whatever the message being sent at the heart of the game, it should be allowed to exist, merely because by calling for it to be banned, it would mean we are calling for the Internet to be policed and censored. In the end, a ban wasn’t necessary, as the game’s website now sports an apology instead of the game itself.



The apology seems genuine enough, and it is certainly well written. And removing the game is noble. The problem is that once something has been released on the Internet, it’s pretty much guaranteed to be on there until the end of time. If you look in the right place, you’ll still be able to play Muslim Massacre and see what all the fuss was about.

I’m glad the creator of the game eventually saw the light and took the right decision. However, I’m still struggling to understand why the game was created and put on the Web in the first place.



Source: Various Sites

edit: didnt read xD sry

Self censoriship would work in an ideal world, except for the following:

In an ideal world there would be no need for censorship.
In an ideal world we wouldn't have to deal with idiots.

The game just screams controversy. It should never have been published by the creator, and any mature, intelligent person would have known better.

I agree that the internet should remain free from censorship though, some people just need to grow thicker skin.

It's a real shame we'll never be able to get rid of the idiots.

geh I don't really care anymore..

If he hates Muslims that's his problem.

He Caved in. blah

there is nothing ever that should require " Internet regulation". i don't care if the guy made a game about raping toddlers. if that's what he wants to do, that's his prerogative. if you don't like it, go someplace else.

Man, what a waste of time to post the game and then get to pull it out. Wasn't even productive at all.

The apology seems well explained as what were his intentions but it seems to be a sensitive topic when you get religion in the way.

This game is worthless, anyway.
The concept might be funny somehow.
I would have called this game "irak invasion",
and instead of the instruction "kill as many muslim as you can",
I would have put "kill as many innocent civils as you can, Then take the petrol".

Just play America's Army.

http://forum/index.php?showtopic=669980 hahahah this is ok who put the link not correctly ???????

Wow, you need to upgrade your veiled attacks...that one is so 2004.

heheh OBAMA its great changing all worlds.....

@solardog

killing muslims is more 2008, you are right.

@godzila
yes, seems there's great expectations about Obama.
Although I don't know him particularly well.

As much as the game sounded stupid, I'm sad to see this got "censored". I know the author took it off himself but still

ok... going to the basement prepare for the riots again...

I love the way whenever someone is intolerant of something or just choses to display their displeasure for it, that some bigger jackass comes along and names a phobia after it... in this case, "Islamophobia" ... please, get over yourself and stop pimping this topic for your sensational news needs.

but if it was about israel/jews , we all now what will happen ...... ..... the whole thing will be upside down

And this guy is the first ever to make a game like this huh.....


http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/16/...reut/index.html

Now now, I'm sure Jew Genocide, Christian Culling, Buddhism Butchery, or Hindi Hangings would have gotten equal outrage from the Mid-Eastern community.

I played it and I have it. All it was about, was killing terrorists. If you're offended by killing the boss (Osama Bin Laden) then there is something wrong with you.

Geez
I guess they should yank Mortal Kombat
Lui Kang - Chinese guy - can get his head ripped off - Offensive to the Chinese
Sonya Blade - Blonde Girl - can get frozen and smashed into a million peices - Offensive to Women
Jax - Black guy with machine arms - can get killed in many ways - Offensive to blacks and those with artificial appendages

Not to mention Donkey Kong and the atrocity to Italian plumbers

Stop the insanity now - unplug and/or delete all video games

*by the way I am offended by the number zero and will not acknowledge it's existence in numerical form - there for most high scores in video games offend me. Blaring out on the machines - mocking me - almost stabbing my soul. So please change the world for me. I mean I can look away and I generally dont play video games and can easily do something else and ignore this but.... well I want the world to change for me too.



(yes it is a joke)

Following that through logically, nobody would want to have power over the people, so ideally nobody would have the ambition to, so then nobody would have ambition to do better than anyone, because they wouldn't want the power over the person they'd beaten. Doesn't sound like somewhere I'd want to live.

In most cases, controversy is what sells. Whether it be selling a product or having people tune in to watch or listen to your show. That's exactly why people like Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh are so popular.

Dagnabbit! When's the 'kill EVERYONE' game coming out??!!!!

Even though I don't agree with the game..LAME...I do agree with one poster who stated that
the Internet is where ideas and creativity should be encouraged even if it is for something stupid...
I have nothing against Muslims or would ever discriminate against anyone regardless of their religious
, ethnic, racial makeup but come on aren't we been a tad "sensitive" here. It seems "certain" people
spend all their time defending their religion. I am not religious but isn't religion given of God. In that
case shouldn't we let God defend himself. The astrocies and crimes committed in the name of
religion is going to damn more people to hell than anything else on the earth.

Compelled apologies mean nothing.

This was a sick game, no matter what. And people who liked the plot needs to see a psychiatrist.
Even though, I'm against internet censorship, people need to take responsibility for what they post online. And they should be held responsible.

GTA?

Hate speech should not be protected as "free speech".

Good call in removing. As has been pointed out before on this item, a game called "Lynch the N(word)s" would be shut down as the poor taste racist hate turd that it would be.

If you find this offensive, then why in gods name would you play Grand Theft Auto? I'm a big fan of the series, and am in no way against this guys game or any game like it. But seriously, if you want to talk about how terrible something is, lets try grand theft auto, and if anyone gives me the response, its just a video game then I say apply that to Muslim Massacre as well. All you people that wanted this guys game pulled, are just as bad as the people who want to see grand theft auto banned.

There is a big difference between GTA and a game called "kill the jews" or some such. Surely even you have to admit that.

You know what game is racist? Destroy All Humans. How the hell did that game even make it past the censors - fuggin racists.

"hate speech" is just something the government made up to curb free speech. There's no definitive definition of what constitutes hate speech, why do you think that is?

what's the point of this topic anyways? there's already a 10 page one on the exact same thing.

Is there anywhere to play this game?

(Ive posted it a few times I know; I just wanna see what this is all about)

Since when were portraying gang beat downs, mass murdering of cops, sex with hookers, drive by shootings, and helping to bring the most negative stereotypes to every minority mentioned in the game any worse than a simple browser based game where you kill Muslims? I'm sorry, I see little difference in how detestable they are. For the record, If I kill someone because I am jealous of them, that's no worse than killing someone because of their creed or race. To say the motivations for killing without a just cause make the crime worse or more ok are just plain stupid. I cannot see how this game can be any more offensive than per say call of duty 4? where was the last white Muslim that killed you while you are enacting a assassination of a world leader to save the world from terrorist?

Now it makes me wonder of how all these "Bomb Iraq" games on the Internet managed to escape media attention?

obviously because it doesn't have the word "muslim" in its name.

Does anyone remember that suicide bomber flash game where you click to explode and have to take down as many people as you can?

Or maybe the game 'ethnic cleansing' where you kill african americans and jews?

What about the countless anti jew websites (and various anti-other-stuff websites) that exist out there?

What about f***god.com? Bomb making websites, illegal weapons trading websites? Copyright infrignement websites, certain websites that people would refer to as rotten? How about typing the word nazi into google??

All of these sites exist on a strictly 'if you don't like it don't look at it' basis... sure, you can be as offended as you like by them but if you reckon there is even a small possibility that they will dissapear if you wine enough about it... well good luck... the riaa wine about the internet and look at how much they have managed to curve piracy!

The only reason so many people have heard about this game is because of how much it has been blown out of proportion.

Sure, it's not being hosted by it's official website anymore but i bet it's on the'something'bay.org already and will be there for the rest of my life.

It's back up on it's official website... so let's all cry about a couple of thousand bits on one particular website instead of caring about the worlds real problems.

Anyone checked lately? I dont see an appology on the site any more, but see the game is now a downloadable version...

Haitians FTW!

NEWS FLASH: Muslim is not a race, it's a religion.

That creator needs to learn a bit more before creating a game like this.

Sure, I laughed when I saw it, then I realized how profoundly ignorant he is.

And yes, the apology is not there anymore.

How is a game called "Destroy All Humans" racists? Unless, the 100% of the game's characters of one race.

Also, with the title of this thread, RACE has nothing to do with RELIGION. It's amazing how many people are ignorant to the definition of RACIST.

Meh... I referred to him as rascist. Also as a turd. It doesn't mean I think he is really solid waste excrement.

I didn't want to say "Religionist", and now everyone is joining the Pedantic Wagon. Wooo-woooo! All aboard!

Muslim is not a religion; Islam is. A Muslim a person that follows teachings in Islam.

Hahaha, i actually lol'd



Nice come back there mate! You are right.

erm, i don't see an apology, the site looks the same as when it started and the download is still active

Maybe it was hacked by someone (who then put up a fake apology)?

How is it pedantic to point out there is a difference between something you're born with and a set of beliefs that you choose?