Is NAV better than McAfee AV? or is McAfee AV better than NAV?

i had some trouble with McAfee 5.0 some time back so i uninstalled it and bought the most recent version of NAV at the time.

I personally use McAfee 6.02 Professional. This is the latest version of McAfee and seems to work just fine. NAV is a bitch because you have to pay for the damn Virus Definition Updates so that will be a pain if your copy of NAV is "borrowed". McAfee updates are free. One thing though, if you have Windows XP and you go to Windows Update and install all the updates there, be sure to do that BEFORE installing McAfee. If you install McAfee first and then install the updates, even if McAfee is "turned off", something seems to get screwed up and makes McAfee go crazy and become unstable and seizes to work. It happened to me so that is why I am telling you this so if you are going to update the Windows XP then install the updates FIRST then McAfee. If you already have McAfee installed and do the updates then I strongly suggest you re-install McAfee after updating the PC and everything will get fixed again. Guaranteed!



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I have Norton Corp. Edition 7.06

and it is Great!! No problems Ever:cool:

I use Norton's Antivirus 2002 (8.0) on my XP box and it really rocks !!

thanx for the xp tips doc scorbing, just tried out those settings and already notice the difference

i never knew that norton users had to pay for the definitions, for now i'm just going to keep norton since i havent had any problems with it

I've never had to pay for definitions. With the software you get a year's 'subscription.' even if it ran out, all you have to do is reinstall the software and p00f! another year's worth. Same thing works with the 90 day trial versions..



lazydesert®

i usually always just reinstall it near when the time is up if its a demo lol

virus scanners are for newbies and illiterates

non

YOu sound like my freind Kevin, Arcane

He is a well paid security expert.

Never used Antivureses said he was carefully enough not to get infected by a virus.

Two months passed and I get a call.

Mike I got a virus its spread to all my machines Its a ****ing worm How could this happen



Now he is a loyal Norton User as am I

Kevin Arcane?

Cool last name...I just use Arcane as an alias :right:

I dunno what you're talking about paying virus definition on norton 2002. I used it for 2-3 months until mcafee v6.0 was finally out. I use both pro version for them. But Mcafee is the best one. Wanna know why? I had norton 2002 (because mcafee wasn't xp compatible), I check for uptade than scan my computer for all files and folders. No Virus. I go on mcafee web site and run online scan (as test drive, only check if you have virus, can't repair, you need to pay for that, but still, you know what file are infected with who). He found 4 virus spreaded in 20 files. Remember, norton was updated. I check on virus database of norton, those virus are unknown to them. So Mcafee is really the best, I always do this test with new version since 4.0 of mcafee and Mcafee always won.

If you register Norton AV, as my dad inadvertently did, you'll only get a year of definition updates. It's a shorter time limit if you don't have the retail version. A month or two ago Neowin posted that Norton's subscription renewal fee was going up from $3.95 per year to $9.95 per year.



I've had McAfee VirusScan up to version 5.x and never had to pay for a subscription. I don't know about version 6 though. I've read that McAfee does subscriptions too, but that was in the CNet reviews.



I couldn't tell you which one is best at virus prevention, but McAfee doesn't reconfigure your email client like Norton, which has caused some tech support calls from novices.

Yeah, I remember of that fee, but has said earlier in the thread, you just have to uninstall and reinstall. But ever notice something when uninstalling Norton without reinstalling it? Leave a bunch of scrap and bug.



For Mcafee 6.0, it's free as always, and better than ever, faster too. Well, if we need to pay, I never had any bill or info asked for that and I used it since the old v2.1 on floppy for win3.1.



Thinking of it, I did'nt pay for the subscription of norton either, wounder why? Where they supose to ask for that? I always update without any asking about anything, they told me that my subscriptioni was ending in 1 years, but never saw any bill!



Anyway, has I always say: "I recommend Mcafee, as for me, it's the best but use wich ever you want, it's your choice."

Cool

I have used both NAV and MAV. MAV is better imo but you cant make it stop starting up :devious: on windows boot. NAV updating nav is real real slow. I dont like that at all. Maybe I have some setting wrong or something but who knows. Scanning the files take forever too. I think mav is faster.

Norton anti virus 2002 is so much better than mcafee anything its not even funny. ive used them both for long periouds of time.. trust me.. NAV is alot bette.r

then one day if u dont have a virus scanner and windows wont boot up due to an infection.....only IF your very careful about everything you download

pfft I use both.



wow how 1337 am I.



But I have found Mcafee found somethings that Norton hasnt and vice versa.



At one stage I had PC-cillin 2000, Innoculan, Nortons and Mcafee on a box, LOL. Never got any viruses thats for sure.



And I never had any performance problems.

Geez............... AntiViral Toolkit Pro (AVP) ..........Da Best !

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?...3?fid=962202342

first of all you shouldn't download anything that you don't know what it is...



second, after saying the first, you don't need to be catious no more if u know where the file is coming...



third, IMO i think virus scanners are useless and rip-off's and i guess they're perfect for the average user, but not me.





i've never gotten a virus since i became more knowledgable about computer's (which is for many years now). also IMO, i'd think any user who cosiders themself good at comps should have a computer formated, up and running in less than an 2 hours if they were to ever get in a situation where they do have a virus.



oh, btw, it helps if no one else use's your computer.... like family... if so, virus scanners are the way to go, if u have a dumb lil bro or something and i would choose nortons.

they both suck ;D

I consider myself a to be v good @ using computers, and it is pretty obvious when something is/isn't a virus. Recently, i have been using AV software because on USENET/IRC people post up plenty of stuff and there are of viruses in well disguised files, and viruses are getting so good at manipulating MS outlook and stuff that you may not even realized you opened a virus.



So far my scanner caught 2 1 of them was from that installer for limewire.

For me Norton, the interface is good also has the professional look.



Also Mcafee Requires virus subscriptions just like Norton, it's just that it doesn't tell you when it expires, which is like a Year, and it has been since version 4 (when i used it).

linsook,



that attitude was acceptable 2years ago, but now its just a bit shocking.

given the delivery methods for viruses of late, the number of exploits they make use of to gain privilige escallation or to trick you into running them, I think you're stupid.



"any user who cosiders themself good at comps" as you say, would also turn their nose up and laugh at you for saying the solution to a problem is to reformat the entire system!!!!!!

Thats the idiots 'I cant find the problem' solution, its what you expect from £3.50 per hour 16 year old IT support staff.

There are so many computer users in the world, there are bound to be a few who can safely sit connected for infinity and not recieve a virus, whether they practice safe hex or not.



Go read alt.comp.anti-virus and alt.comp.virus for a few weeks, then come back with the same attitude. Unless you run linux, sooner or later, a virus is gonna trick you.



Please dont try to spread the opinion that 'normal users' dont need AV.

Thats b*llocks.

To me NAV is much better than norton. The reason being, I had mcafee installed with all the updates, didnt think I had a problem, my system started showing signs of slowness etc... Just out of curosity (sp) I installed NAV to run side by side with MAV NAV found not just 1, but 2 viruses that MAV couldnt find (with the latest defs). Needless to say, I switched over to NAV completely.



To those who say the do not run AV programs, No mattrer how careful you are, you are still vunerable to viruses, especially if you 1) share files 2) connect to the internet 3) Boot your computer.



You can get viruses from just viewing a webpage (that was one NAV found, don't ask, it was a pain to remove). Something in the coding, think is was a javascript thing, cant remember.



Also another good AV program is AVG http://www.grisoft.com . This AV program is free, but you can also purchase the Pro version. The only complaint I have with AVG are the updates, their servers are slow as molasses, but they update daily.

I download many files that people would call dodgy, eg warez and many, many films from binary newsgroups. I used to use Mcafee until my system started going quite unstable and then I decided to download the full edition of NAV that scanned and removed viruses that Mcafee didn't even detect.



Since I have had no problems and have downloaded dozens of games and films in the last fortnight without problems - long live NAV (ps I scanned my system every week with Mcafee but it missed the virus! B4 u ask I cant remember the name of the virus as i'm @ work).

huummmm

i guess you didn't read my post properly....



this is my attitutde and has been for a while, i haven't gotten a virus, and please tell me a delivery method that would trick me. i'd be glad to listen. also, again, u should read my post, i said for the avg user an av is good. and if you think formating isn't the good idea... tell me whats wrong with the it. and again, it was IMO, but i'll still be glad to hear your response

McAfee, is a resource HOG, and is SLOW as donkey slime...



On my traineeship we worked on a network with McAfee installed.

Network communication dropped from 999kb/s to 600kb/s response time sky rocketted to minutes instead of seconds...

25% CPU Load when compiling files, typing in database ... SQL activity etc..



Eventually I begged if I could uninstall my copy... so I could get on with my work.



With NAV2002 you can just run windowsupdate anytime no special trick needed...

How about that funny Javascript bug that you got from just visiting a web page with Internet explorer ... oh, oh, wait, and how about that bug in outlook that will attack you if you try to do anything with the e-mail it came in. Well, basically you can see that the methods of virus transmission are getting pretty advanced/weird.

sounds interesting YahoKa, but i don't go on random sites i dunno...... i think my services scans my mail before they give it to me.

but yea, this is still my attitude and im not gonna change that...

Pay for Norts?, since when? I have never paid for a subscription. You get a years of time with Retail, if it runs out then after a year then format and reload. You cant just uninstall it as it has eg enteries. Of course if your brave enought to run amuck in the tegistry then you can editit out. But then again there are updateing services that let ya know when there updates. You can get the difinition there or.......... use the symantec ftp site and dl and install manually.............

This is pretty lame. Pick which one of the worst two AV programs

out thier and state which is best ..............ROFLOL. Both these

programs are poor. Many better choices are available today,

although you'll be unable to purchase them at KMart or Wally world. :right:

i dont use any anti virus and i never have, cuz i dont accept files like some people do and i dont use outlook

in reply to Exits post about the http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?...3?fid=962202342



I tried this one, and it don't work on Windows XP.. its only for Windows 2000, least thats what the installer claims

Works fine on my xp and their web page tells that it is xp compatible

Tikimotel,



I work with corporate AV, and can tell you with 100% confidence, a well configured network using McAfee 4.5.1sp1 and ePO2.5 will not be percieved as a 'resouce hogging AV client'.



Begging to have it removed on your machine underminded the entire corporate security. We dont give our users that choice. Its there, and they cant touch it. Even if they tried, there is no possible way for an average power user to remove it short of using a boot disk.



Tmf2 is right. If you want a really good AV client with a good scanning engine, and well written dats, you need to look else where.



Go read alt.comp.anti-virus

Norton AntiVirus 2002 uses less sytem resources than McAfee 6.02. Period. But who can say (with proof to back it up) that one virus scanner is better than the other? If anyone has any facts to back up which is the best virus scanner, then please post the information here.



To use or not use a virus scanner is your choice. Be advised however that you can get a virus:



-even if it's not an .exe

-even if you don't open any attatchments

-even if you know who sent it to you (probably someone who also thought they didn't need a scanner)

-even if you don't use IE or OE



Be warned.

MAV slows down the system and this is very noticeable!

NAV doesn't



Point to NAV!



MAV SOMETIMES catchs virus that NAV don't and

VISCEVERSA



Tie here!



I use both but not any resident, just when I need to scan new files (on some friend hd, cd, zip, floppy, etc.). Also I never open e-mail of unknown origin. On OE use right click, Properties, Details tab, Source button on suspicious mail and if it's some spam even use Spam Punisher to punish that...



I also have a third HD with the free InnoculateIt PE and at some time it even detected virus that MAV nor NAV were able and neither it slow down my system.



Never caught any virus and I do a lot of surfing even on dangerous sites, I was only cautious so be careful also.



Regards



PD: there's a prog. that enables forever updates on NAV

Norton SystemWorks 2002 is the bomb! I've been 100% satisfied with Norton's products, but I did have a problem witn the 2002 version since the ISO was corrupted! I used Norton sicne December 2000 on my system and it is the best utility suite out there! Add Personal Firewall and you have the ultimate in computer protection!

I have used both for years, I started using Mcafee when it first came out and years after. Now I am using NAV because if is a better program. But as far as which one is better at catching viruses..? Well, both have their advantages over the other. I personally use NAV and Anti-Vir. I use the NAV Guard to run in realtime, and use both of them to run full system scans (Ocasionally). Never hurts to run multiple VS'ers when performing maintanance.



And for the people who don't use them, well that is your decision. If you are isolated from the Real-World, or don't use the Internet then sure you have a point. But if you are accessing anything that is public, you are setting yourself up. Kinda like having sex with a prositute without protection, but saying she doesn't look contagious.