Gaming mouse recommendations?

[compl3x]

I started playing a lot more games on my laptop and quickly realized the mouse I am using now just isn't going to cut it, so thought I would seek recommendation from fellow gamers.

I'm curious whether I should get a wired or wireless mouse. I noticed a lot of gaming mouses are wired and I assume there is a reason for that. Price isn't really an issue, I accept in this category you probably get what you pay for. I mostly play FPS and RPGs if that at all helps.

Here are a few I've seen and think are nice but I always like to get first hand experiences from people :) (I'll only put links to the images because some are quite large)

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[pack34]

Gaming mice should always be wired.

I've personally been using the Razer Naga for work and the thing is amazing. I think it would probably work equally as well for gaming.

[trag3dy]

I would stay away from Razer products. They feel incredibly cheap for how much they cost and they are very hit or miss if you get a working one. And then there is mouse firmware upgrades that you *have* to do to get the fullest out of your house and those upgrades run a very real risk of bricking your $100 dollar mouse. And then if something does go wrong with your mouse they'll expect you to pay for shipping (it was $30 for shipping when I had to do it) to get it replaced and their customer service reps aren't all that nice about it, too.

I would go with a Logitech personally, I've never had any of the issues with a Logitech mouse that I had with my 5 different Razer mice. And they offer to replace broken gear at no additional (3 year warranty on most of their stuff) cost and free shipping. You should look into the G500 or G700. If I had to choose between the two I would get the G700.

Yeah, it's spendy, but it's also ****in amazing, too:

http://www.logitech....ming-mouse-g700

Of course you can probably get it cheaper on amazon or newegg or other online retailers.

[J_R_G]

Love my G700, would highly recommend it. G9x is also good. New G700s can be had for ~$60 on ebay, vs. the usual $100 that might put many off of it. Excellent tracking, lots of side buttons that I find easy to use, and many other good features. I only use it in wired mode though, haven't tried wireless, no matter what they say it's probably not as good for gaming as wired mode.

[rajputwarrior]

i recommend the g700... i have it and love it.

[trag3dy]

For the record the G500 is also really nice, I got that, only because the G700 wasn't out at the time. :D

[Psyco359]

I personaly use a Logitech G500 myself and love it. I'll admit though I only got it since Logitech sent it as a free replacement when my G5's scroll wheel broke. :p

[Lucas]

I'm using G400 and it's awesome.

[compl3x]

Okay. So a lot of love for Logitech, the g700 in particular. I appreciate all the replies, especially trag3dy, I think I will steer clear of razer.

I found the g700 for $89AUD, that seems like a pretty good price considering on the logitech website it is $150.

[Spartan Erik]

Had a Razer DeathAdder for nearly two years (heavy usage, used a lot in BF:BC2) before the left-click microswitch started acting up.

I have since switched to the Cyborg RAT 7. I initially thought all the customizations were gimmicky, but it actually turned out to be a pretty comfortable mouse (despite its odd looks). Additionally, the precision aim button allows you to dramatically lower DPI instantaneously, making sniping ridiculously easy in FPS games.

[Ezaura]

Look, all mice are trial and errors really, and having 1 negative testimonial about Razor effecting your decision is rather ... well anyway. I've had a Razer Samolsa for the best part of 2 years, most of which where I would have 4 hours of straight gaming at least once a week - and I've never had a problem with it. By all accounts, the DeathAdder as mentioned above is similar in weight, precision and reliability.

The two main things you want from a mouse is that it's lightweight and that the buttons are easy to press. Look at the Logitech "G" series. Look how massive they are. There's no way that mass gaming on those monsters aren't going to leave your wrists in discomfort. How many games do you play that even allow you to make effective use of those ridiculous design buttons anyway?

[Minifig]

Avoid Steel Series mice at all costs. They're flimsy pieces of junk.

[Dotdot]

Avoid Steel Series mice at all costs. They're flimsy pieces of junk.

Really ive had my Ikari for about 3-4yrs now and its never failed me. Love it. Nor is it flimsy, very comfortable and very easy to use.

[trag3dy]

Look, all mice are trial and errors really, and having 1 negative testimonial about Razor effecting your decision is rather ... well anyway. I've had a Razer Samolsa for the best part of 2 years, most of which where I would have 4 hours of straight gaming at least once a week - and I've never had a problem with it. By all accounts, the DeathAdder as mentioned above is similar in weight, precision and reliability.

The two main things you want from a mouse is that it's lightweight and that the buttons are easy to press. Look at the Logitech "G" series. Look how massive they are. There's no way that mass gaming on those monsters aren't going to leave your wrists in discomfort. How many games do you play that even allow you to make effective use of those ridiculous design buttons anyway?

It's not just "1 negative testimonial about Razor". I've owned 5 razer mice, the Mamba, deathadder, lachesis, and 2 others the names of which escape me at the moment. Of the 5 I owned all died or had serious flaws and had to be sent back within 6 months of buying them. Maybe I have bad luck, but I did read around and saw that I wasn't the only one who had similar problems with them.

The mamba, the worst offender is a $130 dollar mouse. It felt like it was made of very cheap plastic and if you had a firm grip on it the body would actually flex. And a firm grip was required to plug in and unplug the cord on it, which leads me to the next problem.. the cord you had to pull so hard to get it unplugged that it was starting to fray. And then finally the mouse wheel had the most horrendous squeak I've ever heard when it was used. And they charged me $30 dollars to get it replaced after only owning it a month. The deathadder just stopped functioning after 6 months. The lechesis didn't take to it's firmware upgrades and was rendered useless. The other 2 had short life spans, too.

I'm not just bashing Razer products and being a logitech fanboy lol. I've used quite a few mice made from both razer and logitech and as far as I'm concerned Logitechs gaming peripherals beat Razers in every way. I think I've used enough of each companies products to have a somewhat informed opinion on them.

And saying everyone wants a light weight mouse is just kind of silly. The logitech mice all have removeable weight systems, the razers don't. The logitech mice all have customizeable buttons that you can assign any number of tasks to, the razers don't. And they are all roughly the same size and weigh the same. Yet the razer products will on average cost 25% more. And generally speaking the ergonomics of Logitechs mice are much better than the Razers. If you want a godawful mouse that is painful to use look no further than the Razer Lechesis. I'm glad that one died on me.

Also on my G500 I absolutely love the thumb buttons and use them in every game I play. They are so incredibly convenient.

And I typed entirely way to much, lol.

[sundayx Veteran]

I love my G700. Battery life's a bit poor but I mostly leave it on wired.

[Minooch]

I recently moved from a M$ mouse (that i thought was fine) to a Razer Mamba 4G - Love it!! couldn't go back

[Ezaura]

I had no problem with my MS Intellimouse, but it didn't go well with a steel mousepad.

Really ive had my Ikari for about 3-4yrs now and its never failed me. Love it. Nor is it flimsy, very comfortable and very easy to use.

Heard great things about Steelseries. Looking at the Xai or Kinzu as a replacement for my Salmosa when exams are over in a few weeks.

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And saying everyone wants a light weight mouse is just kind of silly. The logitech mice all have removeable weight systems, the razers don't. The logitech mice all have customizeable buttons that you can assign any number of tasks to, the razers don't. And they are all roughly the same size and weigh the same. Yet the razer products will on average cost 25% more. And generally speaking the ergonomics of Logitechs mice are much better than the Razers. If you want a godawful mouse that is painful to use look no further than the Razer Lechesis. I'm glad that one died on me.

Also on my G500 I absolutely love the thumb buttons and use them in every game I play. They are so incredibly convenient.

I deleted the first half of your post in this quote just because I wish to say that I have no problem with your opinion, but only that the OP chooses to ignore a whole brand based on it (he's had some very bad luck with some very expensive mice, so check out the original post if you wanna catch yourself up :p).

I just wanna address the last part though. I guess it's not only based on weight, but size as well. If your hand has more coverage, then it would be easier to move - and therefore put less strain on your wrists. I don't mean "circumference" (cant find a better word), but the "dip" and shape from desk / mouse pad to your hand. It just looks massive. My only real negative experience with Logitech was with the G5, which looking at it now, seems to be a prototype if you will of the modern G series (big, useless new buttons), I went with a G1 afterwards and was very happy with it, so in no terms am I anti Logitech.

[compl3x]

but only that the OP chooses to ignore a whole brand based on it (he's had some very bad luck with some very expensive mice, so check out the original post if you wanna catch yourself up :p).

A few people I know personally have had issues with Razer products. My comment about steering clear of Razer is based on an overall negative attitude people have had towards their products and service.

For the record, I went with the Cyborg RAT 7. The other ones suggested all sounded good but the design on the RAT 7 have me really intrigued and I got it at a pretty reasonable price. When it arrives I guess I'll leave my impressions. :)

Thanks again to everyone for their suggestions :) ;)

[Nagisan]

Look, all mice are trial and errors really, and having 1 negative testimonial about Razor effecting your decision is rather ... well anyway. I've had a Razer Samolsa for the best part of 2 years, most of which where I would have 4 hours of straight gaming at least once a week - and I've never had a problem with it. By all accounts, the DeathAdder as mentioned above is similar in weight, precision and reliability.

As others have said, its not 1 negative testimonial about Razer products. I have owned a Razer Lycosa (keyboard), Razer Imperator (mouse) and Razer Carcharias (headphones) and the only one I am still using is the carcharias because they haven't gotten bad enough to warrant replacing them....yet. Major issues with both the keyboard and mouse where they would both stop working right until I unplugged and plugged them back in. According to Razer themselves, I had the "fixed" versions of those products too.....so much for there being a "fixed" version when it really doesn't fix the issue. The carcharias I am not extremely happy about either, I had to turn the mic volume and mic boost to the max just so people I talk to could hear me, and at times, maxing out both Windows 7 and headphone volume is not enough.....never had either problem with other headsets....

Anyway, beyond the issues I've had with Razer (enough that I will never buy another one of their products), the OP was smart to steer clear of them. As for the Rat 7 mouse.....I haven't used one for an extended period of time, or adjusted one for my hand, but after holding one for a few minutes I find it really uncomfortable compared to my G500. The G500 is the first Logitech mouse I've owned in years, and I think I'm going to stay partial to them for awhile.

[SMELTN]

ANY Razer mouse and you will be good to go. I have 2 DeathAdders', 1 Copperhead and a Mamba and LOVE them all

[Blackhearted]

I'm not just bashing Razer products and being a logitech fanboy lol. I've used quite a few mice made from both razer and logitech and as far as I'm concerned Logitechs gaming peripherals beat Razers in every way. I think I've used enough of each companies products to have a somewhat informed opinion on them.

And saying everyone wants a light weight mouse is just kind of silly. The logitech mice all have removeable weight systems, the razers don't. The logitech mice all have customizeable buttons that you can assign any number of tasks to, the razers don't. And they are all roughly the same size and weigh the same. Yet the razer products will on average cost 25% more. And generally speaking the ergonomics of Logitechs mice are much better than the Razers. If you want a godawful mouse that is painful to use look no further than the Razer Lechesis. I'm glad that one died on me.

Logitech ain't the perfection you make them out to be. I remember having to replace my logitech mx500/518 due to something failing or going wrong every 12-16 months. No joke. They were a great mice but they had absolutely **** poor longevity. While my G5(version 2) has lasted a bit longer, i wouldn't be surprised if it was getting ready to die soon as well.

As for weight. I've used a razer mouse before(the naga) and it was, i know this will shock you, lighter than my g5 is. Even when i removed the weight cartridge. And it wasn't just marginally lighter than the g5 without the cart, it was quite noticeable. So those saying logitech's are a bit heavier, aren't totally wrong.

[trag3dy]

Logitech ain't the perfection you make them out to be. I remember having to replace my logitech mx500/518 due to something failing or going wrong every 12-16 months. No joke. They were a great mice but they had absolutely **** poor longevity. While my G5(version 2) has lasted a bit longer, i wouldn't be surprised if it was getting ready to die soon as well.

As for weight. I've used a razer mouse before(the naga) and it was, i know this will shock you, lighter than my g5 is. Even when i removed the weight cartridge. And it wasn't just marginally lighter than the g5 without the cart, it was quite noticeable. So those saying logitech's are a bit heavier, aren't totally wrong.

I can only speek from my experiences with the products and go on what I've read from user reviews on places like amazon and newegg. All the Logitech mice that I own (quite a few) still function properly and some I've owned for quite a while. I have an original MX revolution since it was releaesd, still works as if brand new. I haven an original G9 since it was released, still works as if brand new. And now I have an original G500 since it was released, and it still works as if it's brand new. And there is another one that the name escapes me at the moment but it works just fine as well. Compared to my experiences with Razer it just goes without saying which brand I'll stick with.

And then there is the customer support and the warranty to consider. Most logitech products have a 3 year warranty while I don't even think Razer products have a 1 year warranty. And the one time I had an issue with a Logitech product, the rubber coating on one of my G9 grips started peel off. I posted on the Logitech customer service forums asking about how to get it replaced, I was willing to pay to do that too. A CS from logitech posted, told me who to email, and they sent me another one free of charge and free shipping no other questions asked other than for my address. They didn't even verify that I owned a G9. And the grips are about $20 dollars to buy from them. While Razer charged me $30 to replace their highly defective $130 mouse.

And the weight thing is just a personal preference. I prefer my mouse to have some heft to it. So it feels like I'm holding more than a flimsy piece of plastic (the mamba).

So personally, it's a no brainer which brand I'll choose. The difference between the 2 brands is night and day to me. And again I typed way to much. :laugh:

[Dotdot]

Tbh I dont understand anyone who says Steel Series is mince, flimsy or in anyway crap. Maybe not as full of functions bells and whistles like some of the other brands, but they take a good trashing. Ive had both my Ikari Optical and 7G Keyboard for the life of my PC and thats a good 4yrs or so at least now. Keyboards keys are a little weird on some stuff once in a while but as im writing this ive not had to correct anything due to input errors. Have had the odd issue wth a triple letter or two once in a while tho.

Keep in mind its lasted a good 3yrs of 5-6 night a week raiding aswell and again never had any issues with input lag or ghosting or nothing. Utterly flawless. Have been tempted to get Razer stuff as an update/upgrade but tbh I dont need them.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

Ironically, something is up with my G9X Logitech mouse. It will only double click now when I left click. Tried everything known to man, Reinstalled their drivers, tried another computer, etc. etc. Nothing worked. I checked when I had registered it, and even more ironic, it was a year ago today. Exactly. October 5th, 2010. I called their support and warranty line, and within 10 minutes I had a full replacement being shipped to me. The agent had to ask the questions they have to ask, had me try a few things I had already tried, but I did it all because I know from experience their customer support is top notch. At first he said I needed to send the mouse back first, I explained how it was my only mouse for this PC, and he said no problem. They are not only sending the replacement mouse, but since I am a loyal customer, I do not need to go through the hassle of sending my current mouse back.

Now of course, ideally I would prefer that the left click never stopped working, but I wanted to share my story as not enough people share when they have a good experience with customer support. And I truly just had a great experience. So for this fact alone, I stand by my recommendation of Logitech. (Y)

[compl3x]

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Now of course, ideally I would prefer that the left click never stopped working, but I wanted to share my story as not enough people share when they have a good experience with customer support. And I truly just had a great experience. So for this fact alone, I stand by my recommendation of Logitech. (Y)

Sounds like good customer support. Glad you didn't have to go through hell like some companies make you do. In my opinion nothing ruins a companies reputation with me like bad customer service.