Galaxy S2 native ics

[Hardcore Til I Die]

What does everyone think the chances are of Samsung letting us install a native version of ics are?

I'd rather have the ics look than a fugly touchwiz ui plastered over it. :(

[vladmphoto]

Misread op

[still1]

Not a good Chance. but luckily cyanogenmod can rescue you...

[Open Minded]

Samsung (amongst others) singed that contract with Google to support phones for 18 months with updates. It might take a while, but I do think the SGSII will get ICS.

[nekkidtruth]

Some people will be confused by the use of the term "native". Vanilla or stock is a better term to use. The chances of the S2 getting vanilla ICS (It's funny how that word accents Ice Cream Sandwich haha), are slim. It will absolutely get ICS, but it will not be untouched by Samsung's development team.

For educational purposes:

http://en.wikipedia....anilla_software

[Open Minded]

It will absolutely get ICS, but it will not be untouched by Samsung's development team.

I'd bet money it will be skinned with Touchwiz when it does come out.

[Paul]

Just put this on when they have completed the ICS version http://www.cyanogenmod.com/

[Teebor]

Can't you just kill touchwiz? uninstall it or stop it from running like you can with HTC sense?

[Roger H. Veteran]

Can't you just kill touchwiz? uninstall it or stop it from running like you can with HTC sense?

You cannot as it's integrated with the framework, Sense also also continues to run as well. You can surely install another launcher but the rest of the phone will still have touchwiz all over it. Maybe something with a theme but that's just way to much junk to put on to "hide" something. The other problem is Samsung in their infinite wizdom rebuilt the default apps. So Phone, Contacts and Calendar are integrated with Framework as well so if the framework isn't there those apps no longer run.

As for the Vanilla ICS - it's highly unlikely but i'd hope they don't feel the need to replace the default ICS stuff, just like they did on Honeycomb on Tablets. They added their custom widgets in an overlay but it's basically still stock. I'd love if they only did that to Android 4.0.

[Open Minded]

You can use a new launcher (ADW, launcher pro, etc), but you can't remove Touchwiz. You'd have to go to a CM or MIUI ROM to actually have it completely gone.

Edit: SHoTTa beat me to it.

[Teebor]

You cannot as it's integrated with the framework, Sense also also continues to run as well. You can surely install another launcher but the rest of the phone will still have touchwiz all over it. Maybe something with a theme but that's just way to much junk to put on to "hide" something. The other problem is Samsung in their infinite wizdom rebuilt the default apps. So Phone, Contacts and Calendar are integrated with Framework as well so if the framework isn't there those apps no longer run.

As for the Vanilla ICS - it's highly unlikely but i'd hope they don't feel the need to replace the default ICS stuff, just like they did on Honeycomb on Tablets. They added their custom widgets in an overlay but it's basically still stock. I'd love if they only did that to Android 4.0.

Hmm interesting, I would say then wait for a Cyanogen Custom rom and take it from there

[Open Minded]

The only problem with a Cyanogen ROM is that sometimes things don't work the way they should and battery life can also suffer. This is just what I've noticed on my Captivate. It might be different for other phones.

[AJerman]

The only problem with a Cyanogen ROM is that sometimes things don't work the way they should and battery life can also suffer. This is just what I've noticed on my Captivate. It might be different for other phones.

It entirely depends on a few factors, mainly what's available already for the phone. For example, with the Infuse, we have no HDMI out and no A2DP bluetooth. This is largely because we don't even have Gingerbread code for the Infuse yet since AT&T hasn't released it.

Generally though, CM would give you better battery life than a lot of other ROMs because it doesn't have as much crap running. I've never had battery issues with my Infuse or my Captivate on CM7.

[Open Minded]

It entirely depends on a few factors, mainly what's available already for the phone. For example, with the Infuse, we have no HDMI out and no A2DP bluetooth. This is largely because we don't even have Gingerbread code for the Infuse yet since AT&T hasn't released it.

Generally though, CM would give you better battery life than a lot of other ROMs because it doesn't have as much crap running. I've never had battery issues with my Infuse or my Captivate on CM7.

I agree that yeah, it depends on a few factors and that's even with-in the same model phone. Some have no issues with battery life on a CM or i9000 ROM (in my case) but my cappy seems to be more happy with an i897 base. I've gotten a hair over 3 days battery life off one charge running a stock but tweaked KH3 leak. I can't get anywhere near that otherwise. Add the benefit of everything working properly...

We don't have the source for 2.3 or up but Rodgers released the sauce for 2.3.3 for the i896 just a short while ago. Samsung will not release the source for any leaked ROMs, but at least we're getting something and not stuck on Froyo.

[Hardcore Til I Die]

I won't be rooting my s2 until its at least a year old. Like to keep my warranty while the phone is still valuable!!

I just hope samsung doesn't ruin ics too much. Googles done a fantastic job with the ui.

[nekkidtruth]

I won't be rooting my s2 until its at least a year old. Like to keep my warranty while the phone is still valuable!!

I just hope samsung doesn't ruin ics too much. Googles done a fantastic job with the ui.

Rooting only voids the warranty if you take it in rooted. Most people just flash the stock ROM/firmware back before returning it. In fact, most providers require you to at least try a "repair" or "restore" on the phone before sending it in. Which would remove any rooting or custom ROMs.

[Hardcore Til I Die]

Rooting only voids the warranty if you take it in rooted. Most people just flash the stock ROM/firmware back before returning it. In fact, most providers require you to at least try a "repair" or "restore" on the phone before sending it in. Which would remove any rooting or custom ROMs.

I read that flashing a non-official rom increases the "flash counter" which is how they can tell custom software has been installed. Apparently you need a "USB jig" to lower it again?

[nekkidtruth]

I read that flashing a non-official rom increases the "flash counter" which is how they can tell custom software has been installed. Apparently you need a "USB jig" to lower it again?

Depends on the phone. Even then, there are tools that bypass that as well ;)

[AJerman]

I read that flashing a non-official rom increases the "flash counter" which is how they can tell custom software has been installed. Apparently you need a "USB jig" to lower it again?

Reflashing the bootloaders would reset it I believe.

[DeathsyctheHe11]

Well, if you look at this video, ICS seems butchered by the touchwiz....

[techbeck]

I won't be rooting my s2 until its at least a year old. Like to keep my warranty while the phone is still valuable!!

Unrooting is just as easy as rooting. So no worries about the warranty. I had the Spring SGSII version for a few days before I returned it and went Verizon. I had it rooted and unrooted before I took it back to Sprint.