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Greetings to one and all.
I would appreciate your
advice on a new build.

I have a 1800

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Welcome to Neowin!

I am sure someone with more time will spec you a build, but just a few questions.
Does the budget include monitor?
How do you feel about overclocking. Is that something that you will do/ might consider/ won't do it?

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[quote name='HyBry' timestamp='1325968018' post='594568487']
Welcome to Neowin!

I am sure someone with more time will spec you a build, but just a few questions.
Does the budget include monitor?
How do you feel about overclocking. Is that something that you will do/ might consider/ won't do it?
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Greetings. Budget does not include a monitor. Yes I am keen on overclocking :)

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Keep in mind that 32gb is usseless in most cases and VERY expensive

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[quote name='Seahorsepip' timestamp='1325968334' post='594568503']
Keep in mind that 32gb is usseless in most cases and VERY expensive
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The software I'll be using us all 64bit hence 32gb. Would this not be useful when working with huge files?

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Can't say anything else then **** about this pc in positive way :D

[url="http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160712343845"]http://www.ebay.com/...em=160712343845[/url]

Above build I chose for ya includes:
-Cooler Master Elite 310 (Mid Tower)
-3 x 120mm Blue LED Cooler Master Sickleflow High Performance Fans>eyecandy
-12" Blue Cold Cathode Neon Lighting->eyecandy
-[FREE] Overclock Processor up to 10%
-Level 2 Iron Tundra Liquid Cooling (UV blue colored)
-ASUS P8Z68-V LX [VGA DVI HDMI] SATA 6Gb/s USB3 {4 DDR3 Slots}
-16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz
-Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti 1GB (Min. 600 Watt Power Supply)
-Standard 600 Watt, more isn't really needed if you don't add anything else
-1TB 7200 RPM
-Fan-Less Aluminum Silent Hard Drive Cooler with Heatpipes
-NZX Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Controller & Temperature Display->TOYS :D
-Internal Wireless N 300Mbps->was forgotten at first :p
-ASUS Xonar DX 7.1->Sound is important in your case
-Life-time U.S. based technical support and customer service by our own in-house technicians
-Standard 3 Years Parts and Labor

And best part of it is: you don't have to build it, some kind of chinese will do it for ya ^^
You can also add custom body paintings if ya like ;)

[quote name='Inzajeano' timestamp='1325968951' post='594568521']
The software I'll be using us all 64bit hence 32gb. Would this not be useful when working with huge files?
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It won't, I've been using extreme pc's with 32gb memory and haven't been able to get past 13/14gb(took me quite some work to get even close to that)

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@Seahorse, I'm all about a ssd drive for OS. Is the cpu on this system 4 or 6 cores?

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[quote name='Inzajeano' timestamp='1325968951' post='594568521']
The software I'll be using us all 64bit hence 32gb. Would this not be useful when working with huge files?
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I totally agree with you, large files can even push 32gb especially in Photoshop. I would also recommend an Nvidia GPU as they support CUDA acceleration.

I recommend an Intel Quad Core CPU. Fastest one you can afford (K variety for overclocking). An i7 would be best if budget allows.

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[quote name='Inzajeano' timestamp='1325969424' post='594568539']
@Seahorse, I'm all about a ssd drive for OS. Is the cpu on this system 4 or 6 cores?
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i7 2700 is 4 core
edit: my mistake...

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[quote name='imachip' timestamp='1325969500' post='594568543']


I totally agree with you, large files can even push 32gb especially in Photoshop. I would also recommend an Nvidia GPU as they support CUDA acceleration.

I recommend an Intel Quad Core CPU. Fastest one you can afford (K variety for overclocking). An i7 would be best if budget allows.
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I'm all about the six core i7. I'm looking for a good ssd drive, possibly around 240gb. Water Cooling is an option as I'm keen to o/c!

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[quote name='imachip' timestamp='1325969500' post='594568543']
I totally agree with you, large files can even push 32gb especially in Photoshop. I would also recommend an Nvidia GPU as they support CUDA acceleration.

I recommend an Intel Quad Core CPU. Fastest one you can afford (K variety for overclocking). An i7 would be best if budget allows.
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If you got a nvidia videocard(I chose the best in above build) photoshop will use 90% of the time cuda and won't pass even 12gb...

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[quote name='Seahorsepip' timestamp='1325969896' post='594568559']

If you got a nvidia videocard(I chose the best in above build) photoshop will use 90% of the time cuda and won't pass even 12gb...
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What model are we talking about Seahorse?

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[quote name='Inzajeano' timestamp='1325969759' post='594568555']
I'm all about the six core i7. I'm looking for a good ssd drive, possibly around 240gb. Water Cooling is an option as I'm keen to o/c!
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ssd of such size is very expensive, same build as before but with ssd: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150732957551
as you see it pushed the prize with nearly 300 usd O.o

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[url="http://www.idecomputers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28201_28202&products_id=40"]http://ironsidecomputers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28201_28202&products_id=40[/url]

try building a pc over there, they got hexacore and stuff you want :p

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Thanks for your help Seahorsepip :)

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Any help would be great!

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Looks like you will be getting yourself a powerful system.
This will need a good and stable PSU, and for this reason I would stay away from pre-built systems unless you can be sure that the PSU is a quality one.

i7 2700K would be a good choice overall for CPU.
Only other option I would see is going i7 extreme (socket 2011). Price would go up by quite a bit though.

Here is an example of a build:
i7 3930K - 500
Asus X79 mobo - 220
Corsair AX-750 PSU - 150
Case - 100
HDD 2TB - 150
Nvidia GTX560 Ti 448 core edition - 240
Quad channel RAM 16GB - 90
TOTAL = 1450 GBP (I think) Aproximate prices I took from overclockers.co.uk

That should give you 350 for sound card and SSD. I know there is less RAM that you wanted but 32 GB quad channel RAM is way overpriced.
You can save 50+ by going regular GTX 560 Ti.
Same build with i7 2700K would save you close to 300 on CPU and mobo. But someone smarter then me should tell you if it is worth getting i7 3930 based on applications you will be using.

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Thanks HyBry

I'm definitely not going for a pre built system. I already have a soundcard so the question is, on what can I spend the rest of the money on? :)

I would like 32gb of Ram as I'm going 6x9 format with some new work so I'll need it for the huge scanned negatives I'll be working on :)

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[quote name='Seahorsepip' timestamp='1325969164' post='594568529']
And best part of it is: you don't have to build it, some kind of chinese will do it for ya ^^
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This made me almost choke on my lunch. I did LOL.
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@Openminded... I know, me too lol

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How do you feel about the Radeon 6970?

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I need some makes and models please dear friends :)

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[quote name='Inzajeano' timestamp='1326052229' post='594569993']
Thanks HyBry

I'm definitely not going for a pre built system. I already have a soundcard so the question is, on what can I spend the rest of the money on? :)

I would like 32gb of Ram as I'm going 6x9 format with some new work so I'll need it for the huge scanned negatives I'll be working on :)
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That is good.
I assume you have all the other 'attachements' as well (keyboard/mouse/etc.) so there won't be any money spent on that.

A 256GB SSD will set you back close to 300. I have not read up on this, so I won't be able to recommend any, just to make sure it is SATA III compatible for best speeds.

As for memory there are couple of options out there i can see. From what I can see on scan.co.uk 32GB quad channel (4 sticks) memory is 220+. (if you go i7 3930K then you would need quad channel, but for i7 2700K dual channel. In reality you will most likely end up with at least 4 memory sticks either way)
16GB quad channel (4 sticks) can be had for around 80-90. Option is to get two of these sets. You will have 8 memory sticks in system. Not sure if this is a bad thing, but just something to keep in mind, and need to make sure motherboard is up for it.
I am sure if you shop around you will find a good deal.
I don't think there is anything special about quad channel, just 4 identical memory sticks as it is with dual channel. This means if you can find a good deal on 16GB dual channel (2 sticks) that should work as well with i7 3930K.

Also there is question of cooling. If you decide to overclock then decent aftermarket cooling would be advisable. There is Corsair H-series closed loop water coolers, or for the same or lower price you can get a good air cooler, Noctua makes some good and quiet ones.

If there is more money you want to spend you can always get a better case or better GPU.
As for cases I like Silverstone/ Fractal design/ Corair cases.

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[quote name='Inzajeano' timestamp='1326054714' post='594570049']
I need some makes and models please dear friends :)
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[url="http://www.scan.co.uk/products/silverstone-raven-st-rv03b-wa-black-full-tower-with-usb-30-with-side-window-w-o-psu"]Silverstone RV03 case[/url]
[url="http://www.scan.co.uk/products/760w-seasonic-x-series-modular-80-plus-gold-92-eff-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-x-760"]Seasonic X-760 PSU[/url] or [url="http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-psu-corsair-pro-series-gold-9020006-modular-90-eff-80-plus-gold-sli-crossfire-eps-12vquient-fan"]Corsair AX650[/url] - 650W should be OK for you, and it is cheaper. 750W is on an safe side (EDIT: read up a bit and it looks like unless you do a heavy overclock then 650W will should be plenty.)
[url="http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p9x79-intel-x79-s-2011-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-30-%28x16%29-atx"]ASUS P9X79 mobo[/url]
GPU brand mostly does not matter, as the card itself is the same. It is warranty and customer support that is different.

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Thanks for the detailed info HyBry :)
I think I can get away with a 160gig ssd drive.
I will be overclocking and I'm looking at water cooling but nothing to extreme :)

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What do people think about the Amd bulldozers compared to the i7 3930k?

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