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#31 Hardcore Til I Die

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 18:50

Imagine this. Some years in the future you have a kid who did something funny while you were watching tv, so you grab your phone/camera w/e and upload it to youtube. Inadvertently a tiny bit of "Random TV show" was included in your video, now the publishers for "Random TV show" can shut down youtube because of that.

How exactly is this going to stop piracy? The US doesn't have legal jurisdiction in every country of the world (though they sure try), so websites hosting pirated content will just move over to another server in another country (like say China) and there's absolutely nothing the US government can do about it apart from maybe DNS block it in the US (but then ip addresses work).


I said pirates are the cause of the problem. I didn't say sopa/pipa are the solution. ;)


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Posted 18 January 2012 - 18:52



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 18:57

Just another shining example of thieves crying "thieves !"

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:00

Agreed. Pirates are the cause of this problem and they'd never be trying to pass the bill if not for pirates. Could potentially be the end of the Internet as we know it for the sake of a few free songs. Pathetic.


The cause of this is a government that would rather listen to money from the MPAA, rather than what the people want. The unfortunate truth is there will always be pirates, and trying to pass these horrifically broad bills, setting extremely dangerous precedents is in no way an acceptable solution.

The best way to deal with pirates is not clinging to outdated business models, suing customers, and pushing severely biased legislation through congress. If companies make their content conveniently available, well priced, and don't restrict it with encumbered DRM than people will have less incentive to pirate. Pirating is not something that can just be wiped out, but most people will buy your product if it is good.

For example, I am not going to lie, I used to pirate a lot of games. Now I own ~80 games on steam alone. I buy all my music on amazon mp3 and 7digital (I never used to buy music digitally back when itunes was the only big dog and had DRM encumbered tracks).

If I still wanted to get stuff for free, I could get it DNS filtering or not. This bill will harm businesses more than it will harm pirates, and isn't that directly the opposite of the bill's intentions?

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:02

The best way to deal with pirates is not clinging to outdated business models, suing customers, and pushing severely biased legislation through congress. If companies make their content conveniently available, well priced, and don't restrict it with encumbered DRM than people will have less incentive to pirate. Pirating is not something that can just be wiped out, but most people will buy your product if it is good.

If I still wanted to get stuff for free, I could get it DNS filtering or not. This bill will harm businesses more than it will harm pirates, and isn't that directly the opposite of the bill's intentions?

Bingo.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:04

rofl what ?

That's epic fail imo.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:08

If anyone in the senate had half a brain and was reading this stuff, their mind would be made up... it's too bad that most don't have half a brain.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:11

If anyone in the senate had half a brain and was reading this stuff, their mind would be made up... it's too bad that most don't have half a brain.


They have brains, it's just focused on the $$$$
Most of them are old and don't care about the real future, only themselves and what they can leave to their family.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:14

I said pirates are the cause of the problem. I didn't say sopa/pipa are the solution. ;)

And poor provision of affordable online services gives rise to pirates in the first place.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:20

The cause of this is a government that would rather listen to money from the MPAA, rather than what the people want. The unfortunate truth is there will always be pirates, and trying to pass these horrifically broad bills, setting extremely dangerous precedents is in no way an acceptable solution.

The best way to deal with pirates is not clinging to outdated business models, suing customers, and pushing severely biased legislation through congress. If companies make their content conveniently available, well priced, and don't restrict it with encumbered DRM than people will have less incentive to pirate. Pirating is not something that can just be wiped out, but most people will buy your product if it is good.

For example, I am not going to lie, I used to pirate a lot of games. Now I own ~80 games on steam alone. I buy all my music on amazon mp3 and 7digital (I never used to buy music digitally back when itunes was the only big dog and had DRM encumbered tracks).

If I still wanted to get stuff for free, I could get it DNS filtering or not. This bill will harm businesses more than it will harm pirates, and isn't that directly the opposite of the bill's intentions?


You're not looking back far enough. This bill would've never been considered by the government had pirates not pirated stuff, causing the riaa/mpaa to lose so much money.

I will reiterate that I don't support either of these bills. Perhaps your reply was for somebody else :p

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:20

Anyone here opposing the bill but pays for everything 100% legitimately, you may morally have a genuine, valid say.


I am. I have a very good salary and do pay for my entertainment. The reason why i'm against MPAA, RIAA and such is not because i am for piracy. I'm against those simply cause the users are not protected well enough. Right now it's an eye for an eye. I don't see why the laws should protect companies more than users. As long as it is an eye for an eye we need to accept piracy even if it is bad.

From ridiculous EULA, broken softwares out of the box users can't return cause the box is open to DRM softwares hidden as device drivers the companies are ready to do anything to make more money. And they can do anything actually ... Why it is legal to install an hidden device driver that is not a device driver on my computer without asking me first ? My computer is my work tool. It's what i use to make money. Nobody should have the right to install something on it without asking me first. When it happens to me it's as bad as someone breaking into my house.Things like this should not be legal. DRM fine. DRM on my computer not at all. It should be clear on the box DRM will be installed on my machine and should ask me before installing it. I should be able to return the software even if the box is open when it's broken.

If gouv wants to regulate it needs to regulate both side.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:26

Wow. That's .. Wow. Amazingly I like the MPAA less than I did before. That's impressive.

I dislike these companies, and the SOPA/PIPA bills not because I support pirates (I don't.) but because they make life harder for legit customers and have little to no impact on pirates.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:29

Tomorrow huge sites like Wikipedia and Reddit will "blackout" in protest of SOPA, and the MPAA doesn't like the behavior of these "technology business interests"one bit.

The statement comes down from none other than MPAA Chairman and former Senator from Connecticut Chris Dodd:

Even if this is really only an obligatory posturing statement from the monolithic organization, it's almost laughably heavy-handed and hyperbolic. As private enterprises, Wikipedia and Reddit have the right to exercise free speech the same way as anyone else. More importantly, though, it's awfully brazen of the MPAA to accuse the sites of inhibiting access to information when SOPA is essentially a pro-censorship bill.
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lol! abuse of power!? I think they need to take a step back and look in the mirror!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:29

all about money......makes me sick :pinch:

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:32

I can't help painting broad strokes with paintbrushes but anyone questioning why anyone would be against this is either a shill or a troll. You know that's the case when the first rebuttal is piracy knowing full well the reason people are opposed to it is the furthest thing from supporting piracy.



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