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Which team will win the Constructor's Championship?

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#526 MightyJordan

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 13:56

Nuh-uh, reject of the race is definitely Maldonado.


Great win for Webber. I'm glad the streak of different winners has continued. This is already shaping up to be one of the best seasons ever. :)


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Posted 27 May 2012 - 13:57

Buttons a close second, I don't understand why hes having such problems, Hamilton doesn't have any issues with 'switching on' the cars performance.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 14:04

after this race im very sure that redbull will sort out their problems soon ennough to make vettel winning the 3rd title. ok, alonso is leading the championship now, but he still hasnt had a bad race - which will come soon.

mclaren going backwards and nowhere, they need to up their game and shine in montreal.

all the bad luck is with schumacher these days. i cant believe it.

missed the rain as well. bring no montreal! it can only get better :)

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 14:08

View PostMephistopheles, on 27 May 2012 - 13:53, said:

6th race, 6th winner after a close race. I'm loving this season...

Man of the race: Mark Webber
Reject of the race: Jenson Button

View PostMightyJordan, on 27 May 2012 - 13:56, said:

Nuh-uh, reject of the race is definitely Maldonado.
Reject of the race Maldanado
Reject of the weekend Button, Race + Quali performance makes him a bigger reject over the weekend IMO.

I'm tempted to say man of the race is Vettlel...by far the most places made of the top runners, and really good tyre management.

Such a close race tho...what 2 seconds covering the top 6 at the end! and a 6th winner...so who's next?!

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 14:13

View PostTheLegendOfMart, on 26 May 2012 - 14:22, said:

Yet another disappointing drive by Button, getting bored of him whinging about the car, Hamilton manages perfectly fine.

Schu has no class, he is an over-rated, aggressive, has-been. Driving into people then blaming them, forcing people off the track, driving off the track then sitting on the apex of a corner to block someone and put them off.

I hope he retires at the end of this year.

Right, your opinion is noted.
However, I'm sure you'd feel fine if I tend to agree not a whit with all this, alongwith a few others..

Ultimately a boring race. Didn't yield anything except some retirements, generally courtesy of mechanical failures, and some other small things.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 14:20

Boring race.

I think I agree with what Brundle said during the race with regards to the unpredictability of the tyres. He said that while the challenge of managing tyres is good for spectators, it's not right that drivers are walking up to post-quali and race interviews with no idea why they were underperforming. That would suggest there is too much inconsistency, to the point where teams can't pinpoint where they need to improve. I think Pirelli would be better off going back to the tyres they had at the beginning of 2011.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 15:24

I can't understand how people are saying this was an interesting race. There wasn't a single competitive overtake in the entire 78-lap race.

A couple of people made places in the pits, off the line in the chaos of turn 1, or from penalties to other cars but the fact that not a single overtake was made is staggering. I know Monaco is a boring-ass race anyway, but it was just a parade this year :/

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 15:28

I didn't think this one was interesting. The 6 cars running nose to tail had no chance of passing each other so it was really a bit of a false position. Kinda disappointed by Red Bull's dirty tactics (Webber comes out of the pits and suddenly starts going a second a lap slower, then around the time of Seb's pit stop his performance suddenly picks up again? no coincidence. Disappointed in McLaren though, they appear to have dropped back from their early season performance. Canada is usually always interesting, let's hope that remains the case this year.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 17:23

The race was very processional, Monaco can be exciting if rain is thrown into the mix, but if it stays dry, and the drivers get away cleanly it's all about which who can stay out of the barriers.
I honestly can't believe no one is up in arms about RB and Vettel not setting a time in Q3, just to persevere a set of tires. That loophole really needs to be closed, or we'll get to the situation where no one will go in Q3 just to save tires.
At least make it a show for the paying public who pay good hard earned money to see racing, and competitive driving.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 17:30

View Postmps69, on 27 May 2012 - 17:23, said:

I honestly can't believe no one is up in arms about RB and Vettel not setting a time in Q3, just to persevere a set of tires. That loophole really needs to be closed, or we'll get to the situation where no one will go in Q3 just to save tires.
At least make it a show for the paying public who pay good hard earned money to see racing, and competitive driving.

Agreed. I did read earlier this week that Pirelli actually offered to give the drivers that make it to Q3 an extra set of tyres just for that session, but the teams refused it.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 18:35

while im re-watching the race in peace i just hope that schumacher will continue after this year. he still has got it, there is not a single individuum out there who could doubt it. plus, the car is improving and improving. all he is lacking now is the little bit of luck, but better he has now the bad-luck and is the lucky one again when really in the hunt.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:27

What are people's opinions of Monaco? For two years in a row now I've found it to be a dull boring race. As much as its the most picturesque race on the calendar its also the most boring.
I think F1 has outgrown this circuit.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:27

View Post]SK[, on 28 May 2012 - 08:27, said:

What are people's opinions of Monaco? For two years in a row now I've found it to be a dull boring race. As much as its the most picturesque race on the calendar its also the most boring.
I think F1 has outgrown this circuit.

I agree. It used to punish people who couldn't control their car. Nowadays the cars generate a lot of mechanical grip and downforce, and Pirelli uses very soft tyre compounds which increase grip even more. Monaco was always a bit of a procession but now that every car can quite easily reach the end of the race, there's no magic left.

If a track requires rain to produce an interesting race (which in this day and age usually means a red flag), it's a crap track.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 15:46

View Post]SK[, on 28 May 2012 - 08:27, said:

What are people's opinions of Monaco? For two years in a row now I've found it to be a dull boring race. As much as its the most picturesque race on the calendar its also the most boring.
I think F1 has outgrown this circuit.

Most boring? Do wait for the European GP at Valencia. A more boring GP, there has not been.

Used to be so good when the German GP was at HockenHeim and the European GP at Nurburgring...Then a certain somebody had to go all over and bring some new and boring circuits into the mix, none more so than the Valencia street circuit.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 17:48

View Postmps69, on 27 May 2012 - 17:23, said:

The race was very processional, Monaco can be exciting if rain is thrown into the mix, but if it stays dry, and the drivers get away cleanly it's all about which who can stay out of the barriers.
I honestly can't believe no one is up in arms about RB and Vettel not setting a time in Q3, just to persevere a set of tires. That loophole really needs to be closed, or we'll get to the situation where no one will go in Q3 just to save tires.
At least make it a show for the paying public who pay good hard earned money to see racing, and competitive driving.

I agree. I've been saying since the trend started that they need to either give teams an extra set of tyres for each session, or go back to the times where they gave them a set of special tyres that are designed for using just in qualifying, 1 new set per session per driver. It's a joke that we're seeing drivers not set times to conserve tyres.

View PostMightyJordan, on 27 May 2012 - 17:30, said:

Agreed. I did read earlier this week that Pirelli actually offered to give the drivers that make it to Q3 an extra set of tyres just for that session, but the teams refused it.

From what I gather it was the FIA that vetoed that idea rather than the teams?

View Post]SK[, on 28 May 2012 - 08:27, said:

What are people's opinions of Monaco? For two years in a row now I've found it to be a dull boring race. As much as its the most picturesque race on the calendar its also the most boring.
I think F1 has outgrown this circuit.

I think F1 outgrew Monaco a long time ago. It will never disappear from the calendar, the amounts of money involved are just too high. It still remains a great challenge for drivers, but for fans I feel it offers very little just year after year of processional racing. They could change it so that the driver behind could open their DRS all around the lap and overtaking would still be impossible.