Hum Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 CAIRO (January 29, 2012)?American University Professor Salima Ikram says the discovery of prostate cancer in a 2,200-year-old mummy indicates the disease was caused by genetics, not environment. The genetics-environment question is key to understanding cancer. Ikram, a member of the team that studied the mummy in Portugal for two years, said Sunday the mummy was of a man who died in his 40s. She said this was the second oldest known case of prostate cancer. "Living conditions in ancient times were very different; there were no pollutants or modified foods, which leads us to believe that the disease is not necessarily only linked to industrial factors," she said. A statement from AUC says the oldest known case came from a 2,700 year-old skeleton of a king in Russia. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleNeutrino Veteran Posted January 31, 2012 Veteran Share Posted January 31, 2012 Well at least we know that it was not engineered by modern governments now :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacer Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The answer to the genetics vs environment question is not a mutually exclusive one. Just because there is proof that some cancers occurred thousands of years ago doesn't rule out the possibility that environmental factors aren't contributing to new types of cancer or a higher rate of cancer in today's world. Though I guess it IS important to know that there are some cancers that are natural. Hopefully this will lead to something beneficial. Authentic X and Glassed Silver 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psionicinversion Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 i thought every person is born with cancer in a dormant form?, and just unlucky if it "activates" so finding it in a guy in ancient egypt isnt exactly surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt8480 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Considering everything including oxygen has been suggested as carconagenic, surely this does little to suggest it is genetic and not environmental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 I will simply point out that the body responds to the Beliefs of the owner. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted January 31, 2012 Veteran Share Posted January 31, 2012 I will simply point out that the body responds to the Beliefs of the owner. ;) I definitely agree to a certain extent, such as I do feel it is mind over matter. And I do believe once you are told you have something, it will be worse as you know now it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 "Living conditions in ancient times were very different; there were no pollutants or modified foods, which leads us to believe that the disease is not necessarily only linked to industrial factors," she said. Yes because those Ancient Romans didn't poison themselves with lead pipes and the Egyptians didn't use white lead and mercury as cosmetics. No it was all healthy and natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjones42455 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I will simply point out that the body responds to the Beliefs of the owner. ;) You simply pointed it out, and it has been filed under nonsense. I believe I am superman all the time, but I have yet to fly, or stop a train with my hand, or shoot fricken laser beams from my fricken eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I will simply point out that the body responds to the Beliefs of the owner. ;) I hope I just misunderstand your comment. Because I couldnt imagine a person alive today can just simply "believe" that they dont have cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 ...., or shoot fricken laser beams from my fricken eyes. That's actually possible, if at low intensities. Last summer some gene jockeys engineered ocular cells that could generate weak laser beams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybertimber2008 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 i thought every person is born with cancer in a dormant form?, and just unlucky if it "activates" so finding it in a guy in ancient egypt isnt exactly surprising. Cancer is the uncontrolled growth of cells... and our bodies are created (and maintained) by the growth of cells. But the key difference is that normal growth is controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3ntury Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The Daily Mail must be distraught, as far as they were concerned, cancer was caused by leather sofa's and immigrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 I hope I just misunderstand your comment. Because I couldnt imagine a person alive today can just simply "believe" that they dont have cancer. The key is to Believe that your body is healthy, and have a strong desire to live. Falling in love, for example, could restore the desire to Live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The key is to Believe that your body is healthy, and have a strong desire to live. Falling in love, for example, could restore the desire to Live. that is stupidest thing I have ever heard. plenty of people have the "will" to live and im sure the strength of someone can prolong the inevitible. But the desire to live is not going to make a fatal disease just vanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I have read long time ago that the people who mummify these bodies die very soon due to radiation poisoning but i dont have a source to back it up. I really think that that could be the cause of cancer in these mummies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted January 31, 2012 Veteran Share Posted January 31, 2012 The key is to Believe that your body is healthy, and have a strong desire to live. I have to ask this seriously, do you know anyone that has actually died from cancer? I (unfortunately) know of a few people, including 2 family members, and I am pretty sure at least one of them did their best to wish it away completely and I know for damn sure they all had an incredibly strong desire to live. So I have to say your comment is truly ludicrous, It alludes to the belief that if someone has been diagnosed with terminal cancer that somehow it was that persons will not to live that helped them pass, and not the cancer itself, which is absolutely not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 In ancient China the wealthy used to drink from lead cups. How cool is that? The person with absolute power drinking something that can make them crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 It's Hum people. Providing off the wall nutty comment's since 03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjones42455 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 That's actually possible, if at low intensities. Last summer some gene jockeys engineered ocular cells that could generate weak laser beams. wtf! I want a set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted February 2, 2012 Member Share Posted February 2, 2012 I definitely agree to a certain extent, such as I do feel it is mind over matter. And I do believe once you are told you have something, it will be worse as you know now it. I agree. I have seen this happen with my own eyes. In many cases you will live longer not knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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