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#31 Elliott

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 21:37

Thanks Elliott. (Y) Safari has always been the only opinion for me. I just can't deal with Firefox and Chrome and their ****ty non-standard interfaces and lack of OS integration.


Totally agree. Just recently, I really tried to give Chrome a serious shot for a week, but it just never felt right. Every day I'd find a new UI quirk or site rendering bug. Just started to drive me crazy.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:24

Totally agree. Just recently, I really tried to give Chrome a serious shot for a week, but it just never felt right. Every day I'd find a new UI quirk or site rendering bug. Just started to drive me crazy.

It's the downside to Chrome and Firefox being cross-browser. Chrome, especially, tends to draw its own widgets and use its own services instead of just letting the OS handle it. One of the reasons I liked Camino for a long while was it had the Gecko engine on a native browser, but Camino developer is so slow I've given up on it.

#33 .Neo

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:34

The Camino developers are a collection of arrogant pricks who live inside their own bubble and don't know how to deal with just about any form of constructive criticism received from their user base. Almost every suggestion to improve upon the product is met by great hostility, cynicism and fierce debates to the point where people say **** it and then simply walk away. It's basically what destroyed an otherwise great browser.

Hell, my thread suggesting to finally give Camino's bookmarks manager a standard OS X borderless window design with light purple sidebar - two years after Apple introduced it - practically turned into a war zone. The most insane of reasons were given as to why Camino shouldn't follow suit. It was mind boggling. After that ordeal and seeing what they did with other suggestions given by different people I'm sorry to say I lost all respect for them.

I actually wondered the other day what has come of Camino, only to see it still spots a 2001 OS X Cheetah interface design.

Sorry for the rant. :p

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:10

The Camino developers are a collection of arrogant pricks who live inside their own bubble and don't know how to deal with just about any form of constructive criticism received from their user base. Almost every suggestion to improve upon the product is met by great hostility, cynicism and fierce debates to the point where people say **** it and then simply walk away. It's basically what destroyed an otherwise great browser.

Hell, my thread suggesting to finally give Camino's bookmarks manager a standard OS X borderless window design with light purple sidebar - two years after Apple introduced it - practically turned into a war zone. The most insane of reasons were given as to why Camino shouldn't follow suit. It was mind boggling. After that ordeal and seeing what they did with other suggestions given by different people I'm sorry to say I lost all respect for them.

I actually wondered the other day what has come of Camino, only to see it still spots a 2001 OS X Cheetah interface design.

Sorry for the rant. :p

I 100% agree. Was my favorite browser when I first got into the Mac, but ultimately had to use Safari (after a brief period of using OmniWeb.)

There used to be some really good alternative Mac browsers back in the day, like Camino and Shiira, that all ultimately died for one reason or another.

#35 kyller

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 22:14

Hi

Does Safari 5.2 have a smart status bar, like Chrome? And do you enable it or browse without knowing where links are pointing to?

#36 OP +Frank B.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 22:16

Hi

Does Safari 5.2 have a smart status bar, like Chrome? And do you enable it or browse without knowing where links are pointing to?

Safari 5.2 has a traditional status bar (which is off by default). I leave it disabled.

#37 kyller

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 22:24

Safari 5.2 has a traditional status bar (which is off by default). I leave it disabled.

Of course you don't miss it. I`ll try it disabled to see if I get used too!

But I remember when Firefox done something smart when they merged status bar into address bar... it really makes sense to me.
Do you know if this can be done with an extension?
For reference: http://techdows.com/...ddress-bar1.png

#38 OP +Frank B.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 22:30

Not to my knowledge, no.

#39 Elliott

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:18

Does Safari 5.2 have a smart status bar, like Chrome? And do you enable it or browse without knowing where links are pointing to?


You can use an extension called Ultimate Status Bar to get a Chrome-like status bar in Safari. Works pretty well if you need a status bar.