still1 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 ?Good artists copy. Great artists steal.? A certain megalomaniacal CEO is famous for this phrase, though the company that he co-founded seems to have forgotten the often-repeated mantra in the last few years. There seem to be plenty of ?great artists? left at Apple: In addition to basically lifting Android?s notification system and slapping it into iOS 4, then copying homescreen folders for iOS 5, it looks like they?re planning on yet another misappropriation for iOS 5.1. BGR caught an early glance at the new lockscreen for the March update, which has an ?innovative? feature added: users can either swipe right to unlock the phone, or swipe up to go straight to the camera app. Yup, it?s a tongue-in-cheek copy of Ice Cream Sandwich?s new unlock screen, which offers the same two functions in right and left swipes, respectively. This wouldn?t be aggravating, or even notable, if it weren?t for the fact that Apple?s suing the pants off of absolutely everyone it can drag into a courtroom over its original slide-to-unlock patent. They?re suing Motorola in Germany and Samsung right here in the good old US of A? for the Ice Cream Sandwich unlock screen. The same exact feature that they?re copying for an OS release four months later. Stay classy, Apple. It?s not as if Android hasn?t used other mobile OS platforms as an influence. The app switch feature in Ice Cream Sandwich is basically a version of WebOS? card system originally developed by Palm. And speaking of Palm, the iPhone homescreen grid that Apple has so staunchly refused to change is a carbon copy of PalmOS?s launcher that goes back to the early 90s. It really doesn?t bother us if Apple wants to use good (if less than original) ideas to make their products better ? that?s part of the consumer electronics world. But to bust out the lawyers to sue a companies that are improving on your idea, then steal it anyway? That?s just downright hypocrisy. Source: http://androidcommun...r-ios-20120217/ Google seems to have applied for this patent recently http://www.neowin.ne...ndroid-devices/ DevilsNotDead 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Apple knows no shame but in the same article they instantly say Android did exactly the same. Oh well, anything for a click I guess. bastones and Muhammad Farrukh 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menexenus Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Incoming Apple lawsuits against Droid Mfg's for stealing 'their' technology in 3...2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted February 17, 2012 Veteran Share Posted February 17, 2012 Although I don't support some of Apple's recent legal actions against Samsung, I disagree with the author of this article. Apple's implementation of the slide-to-camera unlock feature is different than Google's implementation in Android 4.0. The main difference is that in iOS 5.1, you slide up to access the camera. And in Android 4.0, you drag a cursor to the left which can also be moved up or to the right. Muhammad Farrukh and Glassed Silver 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Windows Phone had the first lock screen to camera feature. ;) Glassed Silver, efjay and Muhammad Farrukh 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drazgoosh Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Other thing iOS "copied" from Android: Notifications bar Camera Focus Video editing Customisations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Farrukh Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Another one of these articles? Damn. I'm sick Apple knows no shame but in the same article they instantly say Android did exactly the same. Oh well, anything for a click I guess. Although I don't support some of Apple's recent legal actions against Samsung, I disagree with the author of this article. Apple's implementation of the slide-to-camera unlock feature is different than Google's implementation in Android 4.0. The main difference is that in iOS 5.1, you slide up to access the camera. And in Android 4.0, you drag a cursor to the left which can also be moved up or to the right. Windows Phone had the first lock screen to camera feature. ;) Well said (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Double standards? Espcially since i think you were one of the people behind whoever copied the slide to unlock I said so what in regards to copying the slide to unlock from apple Ill say So what to putting a camera icon next to slide to unlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 i wish apple would go away. Charisma, Twiddle and d4rk5ky 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazoo Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 wern't all of these options in various formats in IOS as jailbroken apps before Andriod or Windows had them? just saying/asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 *facepalm* iOS 5.0 already has quick access to the camera from the lock screen. Double-tapping the home button shows a camera button that you can tap on the lock screen. This is just an evolution of that. Stetson 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 *facepalm* iOS 5.0 already has quick access to the camera from the lock screen. Double-tapping the home button shows a camera button that you can tap on the lock screen. This is just an evolution of that. this is not about quick access... its about how you access it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 *facepalm* this is not about quick access... its about how you access it... And how is sliding a screen up from a drag handle the same as sliding a lock icon to the left? .Neo, ManMountain and Glassed Silver 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 this is not about quick access... its about how you access it... And by that same comment why are you backing android in the slide to unlock argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Although I don't support some of Apple's recent legal actions against Samsung, I disagree with the author of this article. Apple's implementation of the slide-to-camera unlock feature is different than Google's implementation in Android 4.0. The main difference is that in iOS 5.1, you slide up to access the camera. And in Android 4.0, you drag a cursor to the left which can also be moved up or to the right. Bingo. /thread Glassed Silver 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still1 Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 And by that same comment why are you backing android in the slide to unlock argument? And how is sliding a screen up from a drag handle the same as sliding a lock icon to the left? Now you are back on topic!!! my previous reply to you was to point out that!!! As per you actual question with this post. I didn't say that its the author of the article who said that. so its pointless arguing with me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Til I Die Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The only similarity here is the gesture (sorry, but sliding up/down is not *really* different to sliding left/right), but the way this is displayed is somewhat different. The iOS feature gives the impression of the camera sitting behind the lock screen and you simply side away the lock screen to reveal it, whereas ice cream sandwich gives the impression of unlocking the phone and jumping to the camera app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthebear Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Windows Phone had the first lock screen to camera feature. ;) Negative. In 2003, my Sony Ericsson T610 phone had a dedicated camera button on the side that allowed me to quickly bring up the camera, "app," from the lock screen. I'm not saying Sony was the first to do so, I'm just saying that Windows Phone 7 didn't have it first. OMG APPLE WHY U COPY SONY?! this is not about quick access... its about how you access it... I really think arguing who did what first when it comes to iOS and Android is silly seeing how they both borrow from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malechai Veteran Posted February 17, 2012 Veteran Share Posted February 17, 2012 the android police are on it! wahhh ooooo wahhh ooooo wahhh ooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 so its pointless arguing with me.. There so much truth there its not funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOOOOOOO Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 i wish apple would go away. Why? Are they hurting you? Unlikely. I wish they'd stay. And since they're bigger than God these days, they're likely to stay, and get bigger and bigger and grab more market share. Since I switched to Apple products last year for computing and phone, I am glad they're here! They make nicer products. Btw, I primarily make Android apps at work and love the potential that Android offers, yet I still prefer the iPhone for my actual phone. Android is a messy system which actually confuses people. The ability for vendors to destroy it with their disgusting themes and crap really ruins it. The inconsistencies throughout the whole system (including ICS) is absolutely intolerable. And this is from a guy who makes apps for the Android platform for a living. We do iOS and Android, and I head the android team in my department. Astra.Xtreme and Damian 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I really think arguing who did what first when it comes to iOS and Android is silly seeing how they both borrow from each other. Agreed . Now we cant upset the Cult Of Droid or anger their Green R2D2 God. Wouldnt be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I think you people worry too much about stuff that doesn't concern you. It is all interesting, but at the end of the day this is all a result of the broken patent system. All the major players in this are huge corporations and I have a hard time feel bad for any of them. So Apple, a huge multi-billion dollar corporation is suing some other multi-billion dollar corporations and they sue back. They all steel features (and implementation of features) from each other to include in their products and nobody seems to know where to draw the line between features that should just be common place and truly unique implementations of features that deserve legal protection. Anyway, all these threads are a pure waste because this is all a bunch of bull**** that shouldn't concern us. We are all peasants to these companies and since when did they listen to what we think? Hell-In-A-Handbasket and Damian 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Negative. In 2003, my Sony Ericsson T610 phone had a dedicated camera button on the side that allowed me to quickly bring up the camera, "app," from the lock screen. I'm not saying Sony was the first to do so, I'm just saying that Windows Phone 7 didn't have it first. OMG APPLE WHY U COPY SONY?! Exactly. No smartphone can claim first rights on this. Dumb phones from back in the day had this functionality. Only when Apple gets involved, it turns into a patent/lawsuit war. Slide to camera, or slide left, it doesn't matter. The principle is you're going to the Camera from the lockscreen, it doesn't matter how it's presented. Copying happens, and Apple is very good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Exactly. No smartphone can claim first rights on this. Dumb phones from back in the day had this functionality. Only when Apple gets involved, it turns into a patent/lawsuit war. Slide to camera, or slide left, it doesn't matter. The principle is you're going to the Camera from the lockscreen, it doesn't matter how it's presented. Copying happens, and Apple is very good at it. There was not a single phone that i can remember that didnt unlock by pushing the green button to the right of the center button, and its icon looked like a green phone headset,,,. No lawsuits over that I dont remember a single phone that didnt have a button on the side that activated the camera from anywhere, locked or not... No lawsuits over that Aaaand touchscreens come and its lawsuit,lawsuit,lawsuit.bs.bs.bs Its all stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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