Handcuffed Girl, 20, In A Coma After being Tased. Police not Charged

[AJerman]

Which is precisely how it was used! Guess he should have just shot her :p The secondary effect that she fell and hit her head happened because she was running in an unbalanced condition (handcuffed) - HER FAULT! He could have used a bolas, thrown a nightstick at her feet or whatever, the result wiuld likely have been the same. Not to mention she was stoned out of her mind & heading for a freeway. Jeezzz.... Just when do you start to invoke personal responsibility on her part?

Conveniently quoting only what you want to hear. So a female suspect running WITH, might we add, handcuffs on, should just be shot dead just like that? If they didn't have tasers, you would have said it was perfectly acceptable that a police officer put a bullet in the back of her head without even so much as trying to chase her down first? If that's how you think, then perhaps we've found the issue. How far is she going to make it with handcuffs on? More than likely she'd end up tripping and falling on her own without getting too far. There was absolutely no need for the use of a gun or a taser in this case.

No one said she didn't bring it upon herself, but those I can't see how any intelligent person would think that a gun OR a taser was proper to be used in this situation. It's just a matter of the police thinking they have what equates to an easy button for their job because tasers are SUPPOSED to be non-lethal, however, any officer trained with a taser knows that you lose control of your body and have no way to catch yourself when falling on concrete when tasered. Unless she was threatening with a weapon herself, or even trying to fight without a weapon, then by all means, taser her and if she falls and puts herself in a coma, that's her fault, but she posed very little risk to anyone but herself, and would likely have been easily apprehended without making it too far in a foot chase.

[DocM]

My reference to shooting her was sarchasm re: your comment, hence the tongue smiley. Sheesh.

Look - if she managed to get to the freeway she'd have put others at risk, and anything of reduced lethality including her own running could well have ended up the same way: going head-first into the pavement.

Kobayashi Maru

[SoCalRox]

I seem to be the only one questioning the story. Sorry, but I'm not one who believes anything coming from Iranian TV.

[AJerman]

My reference to shooting her was sarchasm re: your comment, hence the tongue smiley. Sheesh. Look - if she managed to get to the freeway she'd have put others at risk, and anything of reduced lethality including her own running could well have ended up the same way: going head-first into the pavement. Kobayashi Maru

Sorry, nothing will ever make text on a screen easier to detect sarcasm. Even with the smiley the rest of the post sounded like it went along with it. My mistake. :) I just fully expect plenty of people would think they were fully justified in tasering her or even shooting her there.

[M_Lyons10]

I never understood how so many cops are in such poor shape... You would think it a requirement of the job... lol

[techbeck]

Isnt the first time someone was tasered at close range. She shouldn't of ran and resisted arrest.

[AJerman]

Isnt the first time someone was tasered at close range. She shouldn't of ran and resisted arrest.

That's exactly the issue.

[Tomoko]

Let's see, she was high as a kite on cocaine and Oxycontin and had just been arrested for leaving the scene of two hit and runs, then she tried to run out of the police station while running towards traffic. It's very unfortunate that she fell and hit her head but you know, cry me a river. One less crackhead endangering us and our families on the highways. That said the cop was a tub of lard and our police force should be in better physical condition than that. He did nothing wrong however, the consequences were of her own making.

[techbeck]

That's exactly the issue.

Her own damn fault. Police shouldnt have to chase down a suspect and i am sure she was given a warning to stop. What happened before while they were off camera?

[t_r_nelson]

DocM nailed it on the head: don't put yourself in a position that you have to be handcuffed. Stop committing criminal acts. End of list.

[shakey]

DocM nailed it on the head: don't put yourself in a position that you have to be handcuffed. Stop committing criminal acts. End of list.

You and docm should read the news about a bunch of people who have been tasered while not in handcuffs and doing no wrong. The issue isn't just that she was already in custody, it is the issue of tasers being the easy out most cops use, when there are more and better means to resolve the situation.

But, when you are for this type of police brutality, don't complain when it is used against you.

[Tomoko]

You and docm should read the news about a bunch of people who have been tasered while not in handcuffs and doing no wrong. The issue isn't just that she was already in custody, it is the issue of tasers being the easy out most cops use, when there are more and better means to resolve the situation.

But, when you are for this type of police brutality, don't complain when it is used against you.

She wasn't in custody, she was fleeing. As for those other situations they have nothing to do with this one.

[techbeck]

It has also been reported she had oxycodone and cocaine in her system as well.

[AJerman]

Well, I'll just have to agree to disagree with some of you. As said before, I don't see how any intelligent person can consider the use of quick draw mcgraw's taser without even trying to handle the situation without a weapon. Regardless of the fact that tasers are SUPPOSED to be considered "non-lethal", they can VERY easily kill someone still, and police know that and should treat it accordingly. People shouldn't be tasered unless the cops are fully willing to accept the fact that they may kill them and nothing else could have been done to avoid the use of a weapon. As mentioned before, police are public servants whose job is to protect and serve, not go around killing criminals.

Yes there are a lot of factors here, sure, she had a rap sheet of illegal things she has done, sure she was trying to run, sure, it was unlucky the way she fell and hit her head, but I don't see for one second why the police officer's reaction should have been to immediately whip his taser out and fire it off without even trying to handle the situation in any other way. Not to mention it's the police officer's own fault that she had the opportunity to take off. They had handcuffs on her already, she should have been in the back of the car or being escorted into the police station. There neglect in controlling a suspect doesn't give them the right to use a potentially deadly weapon against someone.

Don't forget one of the very most important things about civil rights in our country. She's innocent until proven guilty.

[+Warwagon MVC]

I'm confused, why did it show her contentious and sitting up at 2:15?

[shakey]

Well, I'll just have to agree to disagree with some of you. As said before, I don't see how any intelligent person can consider the use of quick draw mcgraw's taser without even trying to handle the situation without a weapon. Regardless of the fact that tasers are SUPPOSED to be considered "non-lethal", they can VERY easily kill someone still, and police know that and should treat it accordingly. People shouldn't be tasered unless the cops are fully willing to accept the fact that they may kill them and nothing else could have been done to avoid the use of a weapon. As mentioned before, police are public servants whose job is to protect and serve, not go around killing criminals.

Yes there are a lot of factors here, sure, she had a rap sheet of illegal things she has done, sure she was trying to run, sure, it was unlucky the way she fell and hit her head, but I don't see for one second why the police officer's reaction should have been to immediately whip his taser out and fire it off without even trying to handle the situation in any other way. Not to mention it's the police officer's own fault that she had the opportunity to take off. They had handcuffs on her already, she should have been in the back of the car or being escorted into the police station. There neglect in controlling a suspect doesn't give them the right to use a potentially deadly weapon against someone.

Don't forget one of the very most important things about civil rights in our country. She's innocent until proven guilty.

Doesn't matter what her rap sheet says, again, Police are not judges. And I totally agree with your comment on they need to be able to know what a tazer can do and expect the worst case senario for when using one. Too bad, they don't.

[t_r_nelson]

You and docm should read the news about a bunch of people who have been tasered while not in handcuffs and doing no wrong.

Doing NO wrong? Really? There are people just walking down the street, minding their own business, and **ZAP**, a cop tasers them. Really?

They had to have been doing something that was determined by the police as wrong. People don't just randomly get tasered. Doesn't happen. You can argue whether it was justified based on your opinion but you cannot say they were doing nothing wrong. They put themselves into a position that they may get tasered.

I've never been tasered before. I've never had one pointed at me. I've never been in a situation that would ever give the police even the slightest inkling to taser me. I don't put myself in that position so I don't have to worry about it. Again, end of list.

[Southern Patriot]

One thing I would like to point out: that cop isn't necessarily out of shape or fat. What many of you are looking at and calling fat is very likely his body armor. I know a few cops and the stuff they wear under their shirts can easily make them look 30 or 40 lbs heavier than they really are. Some types of body armor worn by police are rather thick and significantly bulk up the person wearing it. As for the rest of the video, we have no idea what happened in the minute (or even the seconds) preceding what we see there. It looks as if the woman ran out of the building, but we have no way of knowing if she was already being pursued before this video was captured, and what the officer might have done before that, such as ordering her to stop. It also appears that he had already fired the taser at her BEFORE the video starts, and that he only then caught up to her as she continued running out of the building.

[shakey]

Doing NO wrong? Really? There are people just walking down the street, minding their own business, and **ZAP**, a cop tasers them. Really?

They had to have been doing something that was determined by the police as wrong. People don't just randomly get tasered. Doesn't happen. You can argue whether it was justified based on your opinion but you cannot say they were doing nothing wrong. They put themselves into a position that they may get tasered.

I've never been tasered before. I've never had one pointed at me. I've never been in a situation that would ever give the police even the slightest inkling to taser me. I don't put myself in that position so I don't have to worry about it. Again, end of list.

Again, do your research. To think that police only stop criminals and not innocent people is ignorant. Just because a police thinks something is wrong, does not make it so. That is why there are judges. Maybe you should google, police and tazers , read up on some stories about how elderly people are tazed, a woman shot for nothing, and other abuses done in the name of law by police. You don't have to put yourself in a situation, they can put you in it. Just wait for the day where you feel your rights are being violated, or someone elses, by the law, and then see where your stance is. But of course, you seem to believe that only bad people get abused by police, which in turn makes it good abuse....

[webeagle12]

that fat pig cop should at least get charged with man slaughter

she should have run at first place and this wouldnt had happen. If she would escape and run over one of you family member, then you would complain about police not doing their job. Give me a break...

[t_r_nelson]

Again, do your research. To think that police only stop criminals and not innocent people is ignorant. Just because a police thinks something is wrong, does not make it so. That is why there are judges. Maybe you should google, police and tazers , read up on some stories about how elderly people are tazed, a woman shot for nothing, and other abuses done in the name of law by police. You don't have to put yourself in a situation, they can put you in it. Just wait for the day where you feel your rights are being violated, or someone elses, by the law, and then see where your stance is. But of course, you seem to believe that only bad people get abused by police, which in turn makes it good abuse....

I'll restate my point. You are using your opinion whether what they were doing was wrong or not. Don't put yourself in that gray area.

If you feel your rights are being violated, calm yourself and let it all sort out. Arguing with police officers will get you absolutely nowhere. If you have a complaint after it's all done, seek legal council. Trying to fight your way through it in the heat of the moment will get you into that gray area you don't want to be.

Running from the police when you have handcuffs on is definitely not a gray area.

[Tomoko]

I just wonder if people would still be defending the criminal if it had been a man who was driving while high on drugs, went out and caused two traffic accidents and then fled from the police.

[Another Canuck]

You and docm should read the news about a bunch of people who have been tasered while not in handcuffs and doing no wrong. The issue isn't just that she was already in custody, it is the issue of tasers being the easy out most cops use, when there are more and better means to resolve the situation.

But, when you are for this type of police brutality, don't complain when it is used against you.

Not going to happen, because contrary to popular belief on the internet, Police officers don't just randomly taze compliant, respectful people on purpose.

Here's what I know: I'm a law abiding citizen. I walk around, drive around, generally carry on about my day without doing anything stupid, and to this day, I have never been assaulted by Police. When I talk to Police, I'm respectful to them, and they're respectful to me in return.

Have mistakes been made? Yes. But not nearly enough of those incidents were caused by pure negligence or corruption to warrant me being fearful of the Police or to feel that my rights and freedoms are being violated in any way. The vast majority of cases, people resist and generally act like idiots.

Does everyone share the same view? Nope. Do I care? Nope.

Is it unfortunate that she died as a result of her actions? Sure. But...

She should have thought about that before getting high on various illegal drugs.

She should have thought about that before getting in the car whilst high on drugs.

She should have thought about that before fleeing from the scene of not one, but two collisions.

She should have thought about that before escaping from her handcuffs.

She should have thought about that before trying to flee from a Police station.

I personally don't really care for criminals, and I don't think I'll ever understand why some people do, much less why they care more for them than the safety of the public around them.

But that's just my point of view, and there ain't much that's going to change that.

[shakey]

I just wonder if people would still be defending the criminal if it had been a man who was driving while high on drugs, went out and caused two traffic accidents and then fled from the police.

What if it was the hulk... What if they had a gun.... Let's not do what ifs, and go off of facts.

Fact - Was a woman. Fact - Hands handcuffed behind back. Fact - Cops are trained in many ways to subdue a person and should be physically fit to chase a suspect down. Fact - this cop did not even bother to chase, and instead, went directly for a less lethal form of subdueing, which has now caused her to be in a coma, over a non violent offense.

Not going to happen, because contrary to popular belief on the internet, Police officers don't just randomly taze compliant, respectful people on purpose.

Here's what I know: I'm a law abiding citizen. I walk around, drive around, generally carry on about my day without doing anything stupid, and to this day, I have never been assaulted by Police. When I talk to Police, I'm respectful to them, and they're respectful to me in return.

Have mistakes been made? Yes. But not nearly enough of those incidents were caused by pure negligence or corruption to warrant me being fearful of the Police or to feel that my rights and freedoms are being violated in any way. The vast majority of cases, people resist and generally act like idiots.

Does everyone share the same view? Nope. Do I care? Nope.

Is it unfortunate that she died as a result of her actions? Sure. But...

She should have thought about that before getting high on various illegal drugs.

She should have thought about that before getting in the car whilst high on drugs.

She should have thought about that before fleeing from the scene of not one, but two collisions.

She should have thought about that before escaping from her handcuffs.

She should have thought about that before trying to flee from a Police station.

I personally don't really care for criminals, and I don't think I'll ever understand why some people do, much less why they care more for them than the safety of the public around them.

But that's just my point of view, and there ain't much that's going to change that.

You think police always act right and that those tased, pepper sprayed, beaten, and other forms of abuse are all guilty and deserving??? Ok, you apparently have shown no knowledge of real world events, and thus, negated yourself from having a proper discussion. Again, learn what a police officer is supposed to do. They are not supposed to judge you. They can not determine if you are guilty. EVERYONE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW. What part about that does EVERYONE just not understand, and then they give the reason that police should be abusive and act like a person is guilty, before even judged.? Just baffles me how many do not even get the first concept of our justice system.

[Tomoko]

Fact - Was a woman.

Fact - It doesn't matter. The law and police procedure applies to everyone equally.

Fact - She was high on drugs, had caused two hit and run accidents and was in the process of escaping police custody.

Was he supposed to chase her down and tackle her? If he had people like you would still be crying police brutality. Was he supposed to just let her run out into the street and cause more accidents, or just let her escape? This person was an idiot who had endangered innocent lives. You can blame the big bad police and white knight the "victim" if you want but everything that happened is completely her fault. It's just fortunate that she didn't kill anyone.