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#31 Muhammad Farrukh

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 13:04

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 13:15

To be honest, regarding the graphics card performance, just leave it be. It's simple to purchase and put in (just slot it in, install the drivers and move the monitor cable to it) if you notice any issues with choppy graphics performance during HD content.

I've not personally experienced the Intel 2000 so I can't completely say for sure if it's going to be necessery. :)

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 13:32

Oh and it might be worth shopping about a bit, especially for that version of Windows :)

Here's a list from Aria.co.uk which do cheap prices and are reliable (I've not had an issue over the years). You might consider purchasing a few items from here to cut your costs further (e.g. Win 7 and motherboard).

Intel Core i3-2100 Retail - £71.99
ASUS P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 - £63.31
Windows Home Premium 7 OEM 64bit - £58.75
8GB Corsair Vengeance Black (2x4GB) £35.19
430W Corsair Builder Series 430CX - £29.99
OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-III Solid State Hard Drive - £53.25
1TB Western Digital Caviar Green 3.5" - £66.50
Sharkoon Vaya Value Black w/ USB3.0 - £25.00
LG 10x Internal BluRay BD Combo - £39.81
Total (inc vat & delivery) £542.18

Oh and http://skinflint.co.uk/ is what I use to compare prices for parts. Be careful though to only choose big retailers :)

Whoops destroyed the formatting just now...

#34 JJ_

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 14:48

The case is cheap, looks good (to me) and has good reviews - albeit a limited number of them :p

Nothing on this list is final though; this is a first for me so I'm open to suggestions.

Cheers.


Ultimately it's your decision which case you go for. Back when I built my first PC, I brought a similar design case and I was really disappointed with it. It turned out to look quite cheap and tacky and ended up being a ~£50 doorstop. I shelled out £100 or so for an Antec case instead, which I still use it to this day. Your budget might not stretch that far but a machine I built for my brother a few years ago had an older variant of the following case which I loved the design and quality of:

http://www.ebuyer.co...-rc-330-kkpl-gp

I ended up learning from my mistake so just passing on my experience which may end up saving you some £££ and disappointment

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£72.98 - HDD - Western Digital Caviar Green Power 1TB 64MB Cache Hard Disk Drive SATAII 300MB/s <8.9ms - OEM

Have a look at Seagate's, I've had terrible experience with WD passport drives. I'm currently on my 5th replacement from them and I always recommend to friends to avoid WD like a plague.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:16

I currently have 4 drives by Western Digital that are between 1 to 4 years old. No issues with any of them.

The downside is the extra cost for cases is sometimes too much for most people. As he's not a gamer, and an i3 doesn't put out much heat I don't think it'll matter much which one he gets. The most he'll do is put in a small gfx card which has a tiny fan or a passive heat sink. If noise is an issue he can buy a Zalman fan controller for £5.

#36 Jose_49

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:24

I would strongly suggest you to hold off for a month. With the new Ivy Bridge intel core i series, there will be a lot of improvement in the graphic area. You could stay still and watch how it goes.

#37 OP Hardcore Til I Die

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:41

Oh and it might be worth shopping about a bit, especially for that version of Windows :)

Here's a list from Aria.co.uk which do cheap prices and are reliable (I've not had an issue over the years). You might consider purchasing a few items from here to cut your costs further (e.g. Win 7 and motherboard).

Intel Core i3-2100 Retail - £71.99
ASUS P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 - £63.31
Windows Home Premium 7 OEM 64bit - £58.75
8GB Corsair Vengeance Black (2x4GB) £35.19
430W Corsair Builder Series 430CX - £29.99
OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-III Solid State Hard Drive - £53.25
1TB Western Digital Caviar Green 3.5" - £66.50
Sharkoon Vaya Value Black w/ USB3.0 - £25.00
LG 10x Internal BluRay BD Combo - £39.81
Total (inc vat & delivery) £542.18

Oh and http://skinflint.co.uk/ is what I use to compare prices for parts. Be careful though to only choose big retailers :)

Whoops destroyed the formatting just now...


Thanks. I've ordered from Aria before but only software, didn't realise it was cheaper than Novatech.

Posted Image Posted Image Intel Core i3-2100 3.10GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail Posted Image #43839 £ 71.99 £ 71.99 Posted Image Posted Image MICROSOFT Windows Home Premium 7 SP1 64-bit EN 1pk - OEM [GFC-02050] #38272 £ 58.75 £ 58.75 Posted Image Posted Image 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black LP (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz 1.5v Dual Channel Kit - CML8GX3M2A1600C9 #45511 £ 35.73 £ 35.73 Posted Image Posted Image 430W Corsair Builder Series 430CX V2 80PLUS Power Supply #42487 £ 29.99 £ 29.99 Posted Image Posted Image OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-III Solid State Hard Drive #47600 £ 53.25 £ 53.25 Posted Image Posted Image 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green 3.5" SATA III 6GB/s Internal Hard Drive [WD10EARX] #46313 £ 66.50 £ 66.50 Posted Image Posted Image Fractal Design Arc Black Midi Tower Chassis w/ USB3.0 Posted Image #45664 £ 54.99 £ 54.99 Posted Image Posted Image LG 10x Internal BluRay BD Combo Retail Kit #48109 £ 39.81 £ 39.81 Posted Image Posted Image ASUS P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 (REV B3) Socket 1155 DDR3 PCI-Express Motherboard #48445 £ 63.31 £ 63.31

TOTAL (inc VAT & Delivery) - £581.30

How does this look?

I'll probably need tools and a 2.5" to 3.5" converter so I can fit the SSD as well won't I?

That case has really good reviews and isn't massively more expensive than the one I was looking at, so might as well :)

With regards to the motherboard only having 2 USB3 ports, the only peripheral I think I'll need USB3 is an external hard drive for backup purposes.. can't think of anything else I would use that would need such a fast speed.

Ughh that formatting has gone bad... let me know if you can't read it very well and I'll fix it :p

Ultimately it's your decision which case you go for. Back when I built my first PC, I brought a similar design case and I was really disappointed with it. It turned out to look quite cheap and tacky and ended up being a ~£50 doorstop. I shelled out £100 or so for an Antec case instead, which I still use it to this day. Your budget might not stretch that far but a machine I built for my brother a few years ago had an older variant of the following case which I loved the design and quality of:

http://www.ebuyer.co...-rc-330-kkpl-gp

I ended up learning from my mistake so just passing on my experience which may end up saving you some £££ and disappointment

*edit*

£72.98 - HDD - Western Digital Caviar Green Power 1TB 64MB Cache Hard Disk Drive SATAII 300MB/s <8.9ms - OEM

Have a look at Seagate's, I've had terrible experience with WD passport drives. I'm currently on my 5th replacement from them and I always recommend to friends to avoid WD like a plague.


Thanks for the advice, I'll have a look at the Seagates, although the WD Green drives get excellent reviews. Maybe you kept getting one from a bad batch or something?

I would strongly suggest you to hold off for a month. With the new Ivy Bridge intel core i series, there will be a lot of improvement in the graphic area. You could stay still and watch how it goes.


I won't be buying all of the components this month anyway. I don't want to use my savings for this so I'm just going to use what I've got in my current account - I'll probably only buy like the motherboard, case and RAM for now. If I hold off on the processor I can always change my mind later cant I :p

#38 Muhammad Farrukh

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:41

This looks solid (Y)
Yes, you'll be able to fit the SSD, with a little work. :/
As for the HDD, both Seagate and WD are excellent. Choose whichever one is cheaper. They both offer terrific value for money

#39 OP Hardcore Til I Die

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:45

This looks solid (Y)
Yes, you'll be able to fit the SSD, with a little work. :/
As for the HDD, both Seagate and WD are excellent. Choose whichever one is cheaper. They both offer terrific value for money



Mushkin Enhanced 2.5" Solid State Hard Drive Bracket - £5.99


Can probably just add one of these.

I chose the WD Green because it gets great reviews for being a really quiet drive, and the price when compared to other 1TB drivers is competitive :D

Thanks

#40 Muhammad Farrukh

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:49

Yup, that bracket will do.
Best of luck (Y)

#41 +imachip

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:59

Yeah I that'll be a great build :) Congrats.

#42 OP Hardcore Til I Die

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 17:04

Thanks for the help guys :D

Should hopefully be able to get the final parts next month when I get paid so I'll update this thread when I've got everything.

#43 JJ_

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 18:12

Great alternative case. Do what you must, in the technology sector there will always be 'something new' around the corner so if you have that sort of frame of mind, you'll probably be waiting forever and also note new technology won't be any cheaper than what you're already set on buying.



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