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[+techbeck]

Hell-In-A-Handbasket, on 10 April 2012 - 18:44, said:

It's just how they have to schew the results to prove their " I'm better then you and have better stuff " mentality

Not really skewing results at all. There have been info released about Apple vs Android and articles writing/proven that Apple still has the highest single device sales. So there have been device comparisons as well. This is just an OS comparison.

And who is "they"?

[King Mustard]

still1, on 10 April 2012 - 16:33, said:

who cares if there are ton of Android phones or if its cheap?? Its selling better than iphone thats all i need.

Because there are Android-based phones ranging from very low prices all the way up to the iPhone price range.

That is the only reason they sell in higher numbers.

[Astra.Xtreme]

techbeck, on 10 April 2012 - 17:54, said:

And whose fault is that? People want bigger screens and that has been proven. People want different looks/styles and the option to have a physical KB and not full touch. Apple locked themselves in to one design/model and the look/feel of the phone has not changed much since the original. iOS is getting boring/stale IMO.

People argue that Android is fragmented badly, but it hasnt stopped their growth and it is no big deal...like I have been saying all along.

Ummm... who cares? I was just stating the simple facts and nothing that you mentioned is relevant to any of it.

It's like saying that the Ford F-150 is outselling the Tesla Roadster by whatever magnitude.
First of all, it doesn't mean anything. And second of all, who cares? It's a useless statistic that doesn't prove anything.

[+techbeck]

King Mustard, on 10 April 2012 - 18:56, said:

Because there are Android-based phones ranging from very low prices all the way up to the iPhone price range.

That is the only reason they sell in higher numbers.

Thats just a guess really. Unless you break down the low end/high end android sales, then there is no way to tell if the cheap phones are selling more.

[rajputwarrior]

Astra.Xtreme, on 10 April 2012 - 18:59, said:

Ummm... who cares? I was just stating the simple facts and nothing that you mentioned is relevant to any of it.

It's like saying that the Ford F-150 is outselling the Tesla Roadster by whatever magnitude.
First of all, it doesn't mean anything. And second of all, who cares? It's a useless statistic that doesn't prove anything.

+1 (and im agreeing with a manc...)

[rajputwarrior]

techbeck, on 10 April 2012 - 19:04, said:

Thats just a guess really. Unless you break down the low end/high end android sales, then there is no way to tell if the cheap phones are selling more.

wouldn't logic tell you that? what's gonna sell more? a 300 phone with a 3 year contract or a free phone on a 1 or 2 year contract?

[Boz]

King Mustard, on 10 April 2012 - 18:56, said:

Because there are Android-based phones ranging from very low prices all the way up to the iPhone price range.

That is the only reason they sell in higher numbers.

and

1. Different form factors and designs
2. With keyboards or without, with buttons or without
3. Customizable as hell. Every soul can make their Android phone their own
4. Tight integration with Google services
5. Because it's open so Chinese or European or even American companies can take it and wrap their whole business models around it (like Amazon)
6. Because it's more flexible and allows you to carry everything you have no matter what Android device you use
7. It's more intuitive and productive because people like widgets and quick access to information

[+techbeck]

rajputwarrior, on 10 April 2012 - 19:05, said:

wouldn't logic tell you that? what's gonna sell more? a 300 phone with a 3 year contract or a free phone on a 1 or 2 year contract?

Still not fact. Just guesses and nothing is proven at this time. People can speculate all they want but nothing is fact.

And comparing free phones by the top US carriers and just by Samsung...(since samsung phone sales are more than Apple's)

ATT = 0
Verizon = 1
Sprint = 1
Tmobile = 4

And these are all no very popular Samsung phones except for the SII on Tmobile.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

Boz, on 10 April 2012 - 19:09, said:

Blablabla

Myself, and everybody I know, look at price. I got my phone, and everybody in family got their phones cause it was free or cheap. I will admit I don't know the entire planet. But it is highly unlikely the Marketing material you just read off regarding the benefits of Android, people don't care

[+techbeck]

Hell-In-A-Handbasket, on 10 April 2012 - 19:22, said:

Myself, and everybody I know, look at price. I got my phone, and everybody in family got their phones cause it was free or cheap. I will admit I don't know the entire planet. But it is highly unlikely the Marketing material you just read off regarding the benefits of Android, people don't care

Not sure about all the points Boz stated, but I know that a lot of people do care about look/size/customization.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

techbeck, on 10 April 2012 - 19:26, said:

Not sure about all the points Boz stated, but I know that a lot of people do care about look/size/customization.

Oh a lot do care about the look, why the iPhone sells how it does. And I also care about look, and size, and custom. But not over price. With equally $, I will take the one with more features hands down, but when you compare a $200 phone, 3yr contract, and extra plans ( why I refuse to get android as Sprint requires a $100 extra on top of the plan, just to have the opportunity to use it.) I'll pass every time.

I pay nothing for my phone, plan, texts. And not going to switch to an android until Sprint removes those $. That's not androids fault, but it is a limiting factor what the carriers are doing to Android. ( crap like NASCAR locked unto the phone and have to jailbreak just to remove it and rest of Sprint apps )

[+techbeck]

Hell-In-A-Handbasket, on 10 April 2012 - 19:33, said:

Oh a lot do care about the look, why the iPhone sells how it does. And I also care about look, and size, and custom. But not over price. With equally $, I will take the one with more features hands down, but when you compare a $200 phone, 3yr contract, and extra plans ( why I refuse to get android as Sprint requires a $100 extra on top of the plan, just to have the opportunity to use it.) I'll pass every time.

I pay nothing for my phone, plan, texts. And not going to switch to an android until Sprint removes those $. That's not androids fault, but it is a limiting factor what the carriers are doing to Android. ( crap like NASCAR locked unto the phone and have to jailbreak just to remove it and rest of Sprint apps )

I normally buy things for what I use them for. Yea, it would be cool to have the top of the line device every time, but if I am not going to fully utilize the device and all its features, then its a waste of money IMO. Why I still use a 4 year old laptop. I dont game on it, do image/vid processing. Just internet, email, and documents.

I used to have a boxy Lenovo T61 laptop. Wasnt much to look at, but worked great and did what I needed it to do.

[nominak]

oh man, I remember my old crappy Motorola Backflip... I was told i'd never be able to get the 2.1 upgrade from my phone company... then I installed it and found out why... They really need to close the fragmentation gap.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

techbeck, on 10 April 2012 - 19:37, said:

I normally buy things for what I use them for. Yea, it would be cool to have the top of the line device every time, but if I am not going to fully utilize the device and all its features, then its a waste of money IMO. Why I still use a 4 year old laptop. I dont game on it, do image/vid processing. Just internet, email, and documents.

I used to have a boxy Lenovo T61 laptop. Wasnt much to look at, but worked great and did what I needed it to do.

Agreed, why my secondary computer is an Athlon XP 3000 with Linux on it, laptop is I think 5-6 years old, desktop is newer but I game and graphics on it.

Most people use Cells for only phone calls, text message, and small % browse for short periods of time, but my free LG Rumor Touch can do that also ( think it even does email, never used it for that or care). Otherwise I have a desktop/laptop/tablet that can do it with a bigger screen, why use a small screen ( even with android phones, IMO the screen is just to small for regular browsing other then " I need to look this up now " )

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

techbeck, on 10 April 2012 - 19:11, said:

And comparing free phones by the top US carriers and just by Samsung...(since samsung phone sales are more than Apple's)

ATT = 0
Verizon = 1
Sprint = 1
Tmobile = 4

I'm on Sprint and the free samsung phones for me without signing in are 4, Replenish, Trender, Rant, and M370, guess its area based