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Corris, on 14 April 2012 - 03:43, said:
Replacing hypothetical systems from two companies that wouldn't let you sell your games into the used market with another that does that currently?
People are fine with not being able to re-sell games they got cheaply. It's not being able to re-sell something you paid $60 for that stings.
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Try to remember we don't actually know what these supposed consoles will be doing regarding used games, jumping to conclusions either way is silly at this point seeing as we might not even get a peak at anything this year.
Try to remember, the first word in the thread title is "if", this isn't jumping to conclusions, it's an if/then.
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We also don't know what Apple is doing with their future TV and AppleTV devices, until recently they have shown little real interest in gaming until the casual market really took to quick cheap games, their current gaming market isn't even something they were aiming to get in the first place and happened naturally due to the environment they put out.
They weren't aiming for it, and now they're leading it. You don't think Apple is thinking about how they could get a bigger slice of the gaming market?
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You also aren't forced to buy games at retail price, no one is pushing you into a store that sells games or onto a website to buy these games day 1. Wait a month and most are half price, just looking at a recent release that is Mass Effect 3, it's RRP is £49.99, retailers were selling it generally £35+ and a month later you can now get it for £23.
No, nobody's forced to do it, but some people like buying games at launch knowing they can re-sell them to reduce the cost. If they can just go to a different platform where launch games are cheaper, they get the same benefit. If MS and Sony go this route, they'll lose hardware sales, and software sales, and those sales will go somewhere else.
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I would hardly use SL and Lion as examples of "undercutting" anyone when it is aimed at existing customers on the hardware they sell, they aren't throwing it out there to compete against windows here on whatever device you wish, the reasons their OS upgrades are cheap is to move people into digital purchasing which is where Apple will make the money back.
You can install Windows on any Mac now, they're definitely undercutting Windows by offering new versions of OSX at a much cheaper price.
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Because you say so?
While your opinion on your enjoyment of a game is your own, games are cheaper now comparatively than ever, not only does modern console game development cost more than it used too, they require more work and more people than previous generations.
While your opinion on your enjoyment of a game is your own, games are cheaper now comparatively than ever, not only does modern console game development cost more than it used too, they require more work and more people than previous generations.
And all that extra work amounts to pretty much nothing. Part of the reason gaming on iOS exploded is because development efforts were significantly less so game genres that had pretty much disappeared on portable consoles (and even home consoles) could make a comeback. There were hardly any space sim games being made before iOS came around. Not everyone finishes the games they buy - if you're only going to play a game for a little while before moving on to something else, why spend $60 on it? It doesn't make sense. The Wii showed people don't care that much about graphics - unfortunately Nintendo didn't develop the Wii's online capabilities enough, and eventually devs didn't want to bother developing for it anymore, but you can be sure Apple will get both of those right. For one, given they have a minor HW revision each year and a major one every 2 years, the technology will keep scaling to keep it interesting for devs.
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Games haven't kept up with inflation, a Nes game in 1985 would sell for $50, that is $50 27 years ago now and you can buy perfectly good games for the same price now.
And yet people would still rather pay less. Growth in the games market is going to come in at that lower price range.
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Looking at just a basic inflation calculation that $50 would now be worth $100+, doing the same with a game from 2005 would show that it now costs more that it would have to put a game out there and nothing is getting cheaper as we move into the future.
If you don't develop on stupidly difficult hardware like whatever Sony puts out, development costs are cheaper, and many people are happy with simple cheap games that don't need that insane development time. Hell, I'm sure devs would like a much shorter cycle so they don't spend 5-6 years finally getting the game out (FFXIII/GT5)
