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[giantpotato]

alwaysonacoffebreak, on 25 April 2012 - 07:03, said:

I doubt You'll find any lower TDP-s with Piledriver

I wouldn't mind a high TDP as long as the performance was there to go with it, sadly with Bulldozer that's not the case. AMD is claiming 20%-30% improvement with Piledriver, but they also made big claims about Bulldozer, so I'll just wait and see when the actual reviews are in.

[Emn1ty]

giantpotato, on 25 April 2012 - 15:27, said:

I wouldn't mind a high TDP as long as the performance was there to go with it, sadly with Bulldozer that's not the case. AMD is claiming 20%-30% improvement with Piledriver, but they also made big claims about Bulldozer, so I'll just wait and see when the actual reviews are in.

I guess the biggest reason I am so satisfied with it is becuase I knew nothing about the processor before it came out. I had heard about Bulldozer a bit but it blindsided me when I was in the store and it was sitting in the case on a speciall for $130 (for the 6200). I figured it was a no brainer,

[chris_h449]

Invizibleyez, on 25 April 2012 - 02:22, said:

You didn't even mention that for a similar quality motherboard, an intel capable mobo cost ALOT more than the AMD capable mobo.

amd looks after their cpu users alot better with thier sockets,chipsets and such i think, looking today at ebuyer i found a nvididia nforce 5 chipset mobo for socket am3+ cpu's, nforce 5 is ancient, yet for intel youre forced at every new cpu to upgrade to a new chipset and new mobo, sometimes even a new memory type (anyone remember rambus) , i personally stuck with amd because i though i was getting the best bang/buck all round option, i could upgrade at a slower pace while still getting a solid fast performing pc. from the first phenom with 7 series chipset and ddr2, then i put a phenom II in with the previous hardware then i jumped to 8 series mobo later and ddr3 with the phenom II, and now ive got a bulldozer in place of my phenom, so ive had 3 cpus and 2 sets of mem and 2 mobos in the time intel has had about a half dozen diffent sockets, to many chipsets to metion, ddr2 + 3, dual, triple a quad channel ram and a revision of each processor as well plus they cost a hefty lot more then a amd equivelent system to boot.
intel knows how to bleed you for cash if you like to keep on the cuttin edge or even just slighty behind it, amd does a hell of a job just trying to keep up.

[majika]

Neowinian Senior makes a good point about no support for UEFI on the GA-990FXA-UDx Series of Motherboards; Hopefully this is something that Gigabyte has indeed identified as a major lacking feature for their AM3+ current platforms.

Who knows, the Gigabyte Dev engineers could be looking at something along the lines of a hybrid approach by combining the Desktop API based GIGABYTE Touch BIOS tool with an abstract layer type of software that may mimic the UEFI spec. in some way.

I suppose even if they just emulated UEFI support into their current EFI spec boards most users probably wont care as long as they see the pretty colors of the GUI, IMHO

** I not quite sure if it would be possible to upgrade a EFI Bios to support the UEFI spec purly with firmware update - I would like to find out though **

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

majika, on 26 April 2012 - 11:54, said:

Neowinian Senior makes a good point about no support for UEFI on the GA-990FXA-UDx Series of Motherboards; Hopefully this is something that Gigabyte has indeed identified as a major lacking feature for their AM3+ current platforms.

Who knows, the Gigabyte Dev engineers could be looking at something along the lines of a hybrid approach by combining the Desktop API based GIGABYTE Touch BIOS tool with an abstract layer type of software that may mimic the UEFI spec. in some way.

I suppose even if they just emulated UEFI support into their current EFI spec boards most users probably wont care as long as they see the pretty colors of the GUI, IMHO

** I not quite sure if it would be possible to upgrade a EFI Bios to support the UEFI spec purly with firmware update - I would like to find out though **

I'm not too sure why do you even need UEFI? For users that need to use BIOS can do it anyway and others who don't need it...well no need for GUI aswell?

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

Trinity APU graphics said to be 58% faster than the HD4000



Since it uses the Piledriver core I think it fits here aswell..

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

http://www.phoronix....ivybridge&num=4

Can't wait to see the damage that Trinity will do.

[hjf288]

Piledriver is apparently meant to bring some power improvements

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

hjf288, on 02 May 2012 - 08:41, said:

Piledriver is apparently meant to bring some power improvements

resonant clock mesh, yeah hopefully that will work out for them. It said on some site that it'll bring the desktop to 4GHz+ on stock clocks along with other improvements for PD.

Altho the part I don't believe about it is the "ultra-low power consumption for CPU", doubt well see any top notch CPU's with less than 125TDP

[Deranged]

As for UEFI, I no longer buy motherboards with BIOS. That's pretty much all there is to that.

I built an A8-3850 and loved it. I plan to no longer buy high end machines at all. Llano obviously isn't super powerful CPU-wise (though it does the job) so I'm hoping Trinity is a major boost on that side of things.

The FX procs aren't winning the performance war by any means, but I really dislike the pricing on everything Intel (including motherboards as mentioned earlier.)

I'm no longer much of an AMD fan after their disappointing performance ever since Core 2 came out, but they're still going great on the low end.

Meanwhile I'm using a Core i7 so I'm in no real rush to change anything.

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

Trinity wise it's said to be not a big improvement in the CPU. I think the real PD cores improvements are coming when the desktop CPU's will be out.

[Deranged]

alwaysonacoffebreak, on 02 May 2012 - 09:09, said:

Trinity wise it's said to be not a big improvement in the CPU. I think the real PD cores improvements are coming when the desktop CPU's will be out.

We'll see. Either way though I'm not actually in the market. Currently only looking at Win8 ARM or x86 tablets for expensive purchases (whenever those show up.)

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

randomevent, on 02 May 2012 - 09:14, said:

We'll see. Either way though I'm not actually in the market. Currently only looking at Win8 ARM or x86 tablets for expensive purchases (whenever those show up.)

Hopefully soon, also waiting on those

[Deranged]

This DX58SO though is the most annoying motherboard I've ever had the displeasure of using. Poor layout with SATA connectors under vidcards and wanting a molex plug AND a sata plug directly into the mobo even though thats just retarded (especially with the SATA one so far away from where your actual SATA power cables will be.) I hope they fired whoever designed this thing. The only thing I like about it is the lack of PS/2 ports.

They say Intel motherboards are the gold standard. This is the first one I've owned...and I'd call it more the 'brown' standard

Enough ranting from me, but seriously. I can't believe *anyone* designs motherboards this crappy.

Slightly *cough* off-topic so I'll shut up now

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

randomevent, on 02 May 2012 - 09:23, said:

This DX58SO though is the most annoying motherboard I've ever had the displeasure of using. Poor layout with SATA connectors under vidcards and wanting a molex plug AND a sata plug directly into the mobo even though thats just retarded (especially with the SATA one so far away from where your actual SATA power cables will be.) I hope they fired whoever designed this thing. The only thing I like about it is the lack of PS/2 ports.

They say Intel motherboards are the gold standard. This is the first one I've owned...and I'd call it more the 'brown' standard

Enough ranting from me, but seriously. I can't believe *anyone* designs motherboards this crappy.

Slightly *cough* off-topic so I'll shut up now

Looked up that board on google and I must say, thats the most idiotic layout I've seen in a while. LOL @ the molex.