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[Dot Matrix]

yowanvista, on 09 May 2012 - 07:33, said:

Metro UI is ugly, keep that garbage for systems with touchscreens but spare the PC at least. Microsoft thinks that their WP7 UI would be fine on a Desktop but who needs touchscreen features on a system with a Mouse and Keyboard. No wonder why Windows 8 will be dead on arrival.

Metro isn't just touchscreen. And I guarantee you in 20 years, we won't be using mice anymore.

[CSharp.]

Brando212, on 09 May 2012 - 14:18, said:

there are too many other great improvements made to just ignore Windows 8

I don't know about 'great improvements'. Personally, if Windows 8 was free, I'd actually prefer it to Windows 7 and just ignore Metro style apps. But I don't see a headline feature that would make W8 sans Metro worth the (probable) admission price. Unless you reboot your PC all the time or have a need for features like Storage Spaces, I wouldn't expect to see the big difference in day to day usage. Task manager improvements are nice to have but don't really get me excited about a new OS. While the explorer UI is changed it's debatable how much of an improvement has been made. As for the rest, I see quite a few niche features that are, again, nice to have but can't sell a whole OS. In that regard, I guess, I agree with the OP. For better or worse, Windows 8 is all about Metro.

[THolman]

Dot Matrix, on 09 May 2012 - 14:39, said:

Metro isn't just touchscreen. And I guarantee you in 20 years, we won't be using mice anymore.

Not even pros?

[Rickkins]

Dot Matrix, on 09 May 2012 - 14:39, said:

And I guarantee you in 20 years, we won't be using mice anymore.

In 20 years I'll be lucky if I remember my own name.

[Ci7]

Dot Matrix, on 09 May 2012 - 14:39, said:

Metro isn't just touchscreen. And I guarantee you in 20 years, we won't be using mice anymore.

unless i can control the PC with my mind or else No!

[goofyinthehead]

Dot Matrix, on 09 May 2012 - 14:39, said:

Metro isn't just touchscreen. And I guarantee you in 20 years, we won't be using mice anymore.

Who cares about 20 years...what about now.

[The Laughing Man]

Dot Matrix, on 09 May 2012 - 14:39, said:

Metro isn't just touchscreen. And I guarantee you in 20 years, we won't be using mice anymore.

He still uses a mouse!

[Melfster]

CJEric, on 09 May 2012 - 14:40, said:

I don't know about 'great improvements'. Personally, if Windows 8 was free, I'd actually prefer it to Windows 7 and just ignore Metro style apps. But I don't see a headline feature that would make W8 sans Metro worth the (probable) admission price. Unless you reboot your PC all the time or have a need for features like Storage Spaces, I wouldn't expect to see the big difference in day to day usage. Task manager improvements are nice to have but don't really get me excited about a new OS. While the explorer UI is changed it's debatable how much of an improvement has been made. As for the rest, I see quite a few niche features that are, again, nice to have but can't sell a whole OS. In that regard, I guess, I agree with the OP. For better or worse, Windows 8 is all about Metro.

I think vast majority of computer users get the OS preinstalled when the purchase a computer. Very few people comparable buy standalone os. Windows 8 is all about getting People consumers to buy a PC. I think the majority of PC sold in 4 years will be hybrid PC with Windows 8 installed.

[Kelxin]

I'll be retired in 20 years and won't give a crap what people are using then =p, but for the immediate future, yes, I will be staying on Windows 7, thanks.

[Dot Matrix]

goofyinthehead, on 09 May 2012 - 15:14, said:

Who cares about 20 years...what about now.

What about now? What about now says Microsoft shouldn't be allowed to change things?

[Kelxin]

Vista has proven Microsoft is allowed to change things. It also has proven we're allowed to black list a version of windows.

[Melfster]

Kelxin, on 09 May 2012 - 15:32, said:

Vista has proven Microsoft is allowed to change things. It also has proven we're allowed to black list a version of windows.

If your using Windows 7 your just using Vista with minor modifications.

[Seketh]

Dot Matrix, on 09 May 2012 - 14:39, said:

Metro isn't just touchscreen. And I guarantee you in 20 years, we won't be using mice anymore.

I don't think so. Touch and even Kinect technologies won't replace the mouse anytime soon. But hey, in 20 years, maybe we'll have another way to interact with the PC, one that anyone hasn't even imagined yet, so who knows.

Melfster, on 09 May 2012 - 15:44, said:

If your using Windows 7 your just using Vista with minor modifications.

For example, I wouldn't say that the taskbar change from Vista to Windows 7 is minor. There are many improvements, and new details and changes all over the place, all of which you can't fit in a Service Pack.

Which brings me to my original post. Windows 8 has even more improvements and changes than the jump from Windows Vista to 7, but when you take Metro out of the equation, then the improvements aren't really that many, you can fit them in a Service Pack.

Without Metro, the difference from Windows 7 to 8 just isn't as significant as the difference from Vista to 7, which is my original argument. Metro is already deeply integrated in Windows 8, make that optional or take that out, and you have changes similar to a Service Pack. That's why taking Metro out of Windows 8 as we have it today is irrational.

[Sonne]

Seketh, on 08 May 2012 - 21:35, said:

Right now, Metro is here to stay and it's the path Microsoft has chosen for Windows 8. Deal with it.

Thats exactly what people are going to do...by sticking with Windows 7 or jumping ship to Mac

[Dot Matrix]

Sonne, on 09 May 2012 - 16:20, said:

Thats exactly what people are going to do...by sticking with Windows 7 or jumping ship to Mac

A lot of you aren't giving Metro a time to mature. I think by Windows 9, there will be greater acceptance towards Microsoft goals with it. We're moving towards a future where computing will be more dynamic, and fits to your life, where as right now, we're stuck with bland, static UI's, where you have to point and click everything.
If you want to keep pointing and clicking around, that's fine, but personally, I'm looking forward to having a more fluid, and dynamic UI, that I can change to fit my needs. You can't do that with Windows 9x, XP, or 7.