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Cappy's pizzeria warns parents: Make kids behave or leave


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#1 jnelsoninjax

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 14:41

TAMPA — With a bit of chalk on a blackboard, Scooter Gabel unleashed a fury. Smudgy and handwritten, the sign that went up nearly two months ago says this: "For the comfort and safety of everybody, if you allow your child to run, scream or misbehave, you will be asked to leave." The owner of Cappy's pizzeria in Seminole Heights had had enough.

Although no one has yet been ejected since the sign went up, it has caused an uproar among Seminole Heights parents and diners, with as many people castigating the restaurant owner as applauding his courage. By Thursday, more than 105 commenters weighed in on a UC Tampa Magazine (Urban Corridor) Facebook account, the discussion getting heated and downright nasty as people balanced the tendency of "kids to be kids" with diners' rights to peace and quiet.

Nine months ago Gabel took a similar step, banning children from the outdoor patio. He says indoor diners were allowing their young children to frolic out back unsupervised, resulting in a dangerous situation and damage to his property.

"We have several fountains out there made by local artists, and kids were pulling out the grass and clogging up the pumps of the fountains. That's $100 for each new pump. Also, the fountains are very sharp, made out of crushed shell, and some of the pieces got broken. We can't replace those parts."

Gabel is not alone in re-evaluating his restaurant's relationship with the youngest diners.

The signs outside Beak's Old Florida Tavern and Steakhouse in St. Petersburg say "21 to enter."

Owner Jamie Farquharson said it's been that way since he built the place 5½ years ago on Central Avenue.

"It's our niche," he said. "It's a place for grownups. I love kids. I've got grandkids. But they don't belong in a bar situation."

Mike Vuick, owner of McDain's in Monroeville, Pa., made national news last year by announcing the restaurant would no longer admit children under 6. At issue? Crying and other toddler noise that disturbed fellow diners. Grant Central Pizza in Atlanta made news for posting on the menu that all crying small people should be taken outside.

In addition to restaurants, airlines, cinemas and resorts have established kid-free zones or instituted kid bans. A Whole Foods in Missouri has even offered child-free shopping hours.

Is this zero-tolerance a function of a growing number of empty-nesters and DINKs (dual income, no kids)? Gabel (40, no kids) doesn't think so.

"When I was growing up and we went out to eat, I had to sit down at the table and behave myself. If I had done the things I see, my mother would have spanked me publicly."

He feels that just because his restaurant is a casual pizzeria, parents' expectations of their progeny shouldn't be relaxed.

"I read one comment on Facebook that said they would never allow their children to misbehave at the Refinery. People determine what is acceptable behavior by the price of the restaurant. But if something is disruptive at the Refinery, it's also disruptive at Cappy's."

Marisa Langford, 33, a mother of three with another baby on the way, is a longtime resident of Seminole Heights. She says signs like the ones at Cappy's make her and other parents feel unwelcome.

"As a parent I'm already a target because I have three kids under seven. I see the eye rolls. At Cappy's, there could have been a "keep Cappy's safe" campaign or something posted that showed a little more respect for parents. The signs have slowed down my patronage of Cappy's."

She also cites vintage toys used as decor at Cappy's that prove powerful temptations for kids. Still, having paid her way through college as a server, she understands the challenges of serving young ones.

"You end up having to clean up more. And yes, there are parents out there who ruin it for other parents."

For Gabel's part, he's had numerous customers applaud his signs. On the other hand, he says, "If people have something good to say they'll say it to your face. If they have something bad to say, they say it on Facebook."
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#2 jakem1

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 14:53

I really don't understand why this is controversial and I can't understand how some parents can be selfish enough to let their kids run amok and disrupt other people's meals. If you can't/don't want to control your kids then don't take them to public places where they're going to annoy other people.

I wish all restaurants had this policy.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 14:58

I agree, why are parents getting upset? Are they admitting they can't control their children?

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 14:59

Crappy's ... ? :laugh:

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 15:05

View PostHum, on 12 May 2012 - 14:59, said:

Crappy's ... ? :laugh:
You always make me laugh Hum! That's what I thought initially. I was like, "Crappy's? That makes sense then". I do agree with the owner though. You're paying for a service and shouldn't have to deal with other people's crap (no pun intended). ;)

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 16:00

I guess restaurants need 3 isolated sections these days:

One for non-smokers, adults only.

Smokers's section.

And one for parents with screaming kids. :s

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 16:57

View PostHum, on 12 May 2012 - 16:00, said:

I guess restaurants need 3 isolated sections these days:

One for non-smokers, adults only.

Smoker's section.

And one for parents with screaming kids. :s
Yeah, and the section for kids should be totally isolated from the rest of the dining area and soundproof!

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 17:29

View PostHum, on 12 May 2012 - 16:00, said:

I guess restaurants need 3 isolated sections these days:

One for non-smokers, adults only.

Smokers's section.

And one for parents with screaming kids. :s

What about the parents with well behaved kids who just want to have a quiet family meal together? Do they have to sit in the smoker's section :laugh:

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 22:49

^ No, we put the parents with screaming kids in the Smoker's section. :shifty:

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 22:58

If there was a adult only section i woulld always ask for it.
i have kids but on a airplane or resteraunt i like the peace and quiet.
Kinda why i fly 1st class or go to adult only resorts.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 23:12

There's an audimute for that.

I do think they should have separate sections of the eateries to help deal with that, however the layout of the place might not be optimal for that. some places have wonky layouts and that would be hard. You don't always have a choice on the building layout and often times you buy whatever property is the best value in the best spot and that is top priority over the layout of the place.

I actually have a whole range of building layouts and solutions for the sound and also some IT stuff for that as well designed if anyone wants to see em... I will put em on a website sometime as well as some branding for them as well.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 23:13

I can understand that some kids are hard to control so I tolerate some crying and some small noises, but there're cases where the kid runs everywhere, make strong noises and the parents are like if nothing were happening, I hate that kind of situations

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 23:16

^ That's when other customers should call them out, and directly ask the parents to settle the kid down, or leave.

Enough embarrassment would stop this nonsense.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 23:24

The way the little ******* act these days, they should be locked up outside with the dogs. Screaming brats ruin the dining experience for me. Well, that and jerks that don't know how to put their phones on vibrate.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:50

View PostHum, on 12 May 2012 - 23:16, said:

^ That's when other customers should call them out, and directly ask the parents to settle the kid down, or leave.

Enough embarrassment would stop this nonsense.

they don;t know the meaning of that word