Rickkins Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I mean is this an os or a 13yr old girl...?? Geeez... Order_66, BumbleBritches57, InterceptorX and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfrog Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Good luck using your computer without it. You can't even shut down without the charm bar; took me forever to find that button. It's a sad day when you have to go online to find out how to shut down Windows. Raa, hamslammer, simplezz and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Good luck using your computer without it. You can't even shut down without the charm bar; took me forever to find that button. It's a sad day when you have to go online to find out how to shut down Windows. Of course you can. ALT-F4 on the desktop still works, or, Windows 8 also configures your hardware power button by default to shut down your PC as well. As for the OP: You know the answer to all these questions as you moan about them everytime a Win8 discussion comes up, so why do you think anything has changed in regards to Metro on Windows 8? Also, I don't get the comparison between the Charms Bar and a 13 year old girl. Calum, dr_crabman, drazgoosh and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickkins Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 As for the OP: You know the answer to all these questions as you moan about them everytime a Win8 discussion comes up, so why do you think anything has changed in regards to Metro on Windows 8? No, I don't think I've ever asked about the charm bar. But I did install classic shell, with a mod that brings the start menu back to a 7 kinda way.... so I am proceeding to see if I can make enough changes to it to make it into something I can use. I do realize that you don't get it.... but after 18 yrs online I simply don't need, and refuse to accept, ms telling me that I need to relearn everything, just because they say so. The word is ""continuity"". It's what most intelligent people expect.(and no, I am NOT saying that you or anyone else is not intelligent or any other such thing) Quite simply, there are no good reasons for this mess. hamslammer 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Its bumping heads with Aero Peek . It works better in Metro Start, and thats if you like the long throw hot corners idea, which I do not. I did see a video that we should be able to configure our trackpads to at least use the swipe in gestures? How do we do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Microsoft wants you to use 8 the way THEY want you to use, not the way YOU want to use it so 8 is really best avoided altogether unless you want it on a tablet or a phone. This is true of virtually every release of Windows, ever. It always has Microsoft's best interests in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickkins Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Also, I don't get the comparison between the Charms Bar and a 13 year old girl. It sounds like something a 13yr old girl would talk about. Seriously, doesn't it..?? Am I the only one who thinks it sounds childish...??? djdanster, JaredFrost, Buttus and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 It sounds like something a 13yr old girl would talk about. Seriously, doesn't it..?? Am I the only one who thinks it sounds childish...??? Yes. Microsoft wants you to use 8 the way THEY want you to use, not the way YOU want to use it so 8 is really best avoided altogether unless you want it on a tablet or a phone. Along with Windows 7, Vista, XP, 2K, NT, 98, 95, 3.1, etc... Windows ISN'T Linux. If you want to use an OS that you can mold, than download a distro, but if youu want to get things done, no setup, or coding needed, Windows is the way to go. Also, Apple also forces you into single file line of doing things as well, and is even more strict than Microsoft about it. It's just the way things are. But, the truth is, people don't care. They don't care that they can't use a third party shell, or third party theme. They don't care that they can't turn off the Charms Bar or Start Screen. They use what's there, and if they don't like it, they won't buy it. They'll wait for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 It sounds like something a 13yr old girl would talk about. Seriously, doesn't it..?? Am I the only one who thinks it sounds childish...??? Yes. No, "Charms bar" sound childish and silly. Larry the Lobster, Raa, derkim and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Microsoft wants you to use 8 the way THEY want you to use, not the way YOU want to use it ... True. Facists. hamslammer and Luis Mazza 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 If you're going to those lengths you know you could just stick with Windows 7, you realise. I don't think anyone will miss your complaints here. :) Why do people keep saying this? Unless Windows 7 gets all the 'under the hood' improvements, staying with Windows 7 means you have a slower OS. BumbleBritches57 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 ^ May as well use Linux, if you're so worried about speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Why should I need to bring up a "Start Menu" to stop/shut down the computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 No, "Charms bar" sound childish and silly. Well, then what would you call it? Sidebar is taken. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Well, then what would you call it? Sidebar is taken. ;) I'd get rid of it completely, no need for a hidden dock on the side. But maybe settings bar, tool bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Why should I need to bring up a "Start Menu" to stop/shut down the computer? Isn't it the same in Windows 7? You also bring up the start menu when you want to shut down. I kind of get it if you mean the Win8 way of shutting down (Charms -> Settings -> power -> shutdown) Larry the Lobster 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 ^ May as well use Linux, if you're so worried about speed. Seriously???? If I use Linux then I lose compatibility with 99% of my apps. If i stay with Windows 7 then I lose all the improvements that Windows 8 has brought apart from Metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Well, then what would you call it? Sidebar is taken. ;) Wunderbar. Descartes 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Windows ISN'T Linux. If you want to use an OS that you can mold, than download a distro, but if youu want to get things done, no setup, or coding needed, Windows is the way to go. Also, Apple also forces you into single file line of doing things as well, and is even more strict than Microsoft about it. In some ways, that is true. On the other hand, Apple's upcoming desktop OS doesn't force its fullscreen launcher on you. It doesn't force you into a fullscreen mode for all apps written in the latest and greatest API. It doesn't prevent you from side loading apps written in the latest and greatest API. It doesn't force you to log in with your Apple ID after you have installed the OS to even be able to use included apps like Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Messenger. I would hope to never see OS X become quite as restrictive as iOS. Similarly, I don't want it to happen to Windows either. It's bad enough that iOS needs 'jail breaking', allows for practically no customization, forces you into very specific and sometimes cumbersome ways to do things (due to app 'silos') and has very limited multitasking abilities. We don't need desktop OSs to follow suit. And even if you think of Apple as being that much more strict than Microsoft. Isn't it great that there used to be an alternative to that model? Why would you want that to go away and see Microsoft become similar to Apple in that regard? Roxkis and Depicus 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 In some ways, that is true. On the other hand, Apple's upcoming desktop OS doesn't force its fullscreen launcher on you. It doesn't force you into a fullscreen mode for all apps written in the latest and greatest API. It doesn't prevent you from side loading apps written in the latest and greatest API. It doesn't force you to log in with your Apple ID after you have installed the OS to even be able to use included apps like Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Messenger. I would hope to never see OS X become quite as restrictive as iOS. Similarly, I don't want it to happen to Windows either. It's bad enough that iOS needs 'jail breaking', allows for practically no customization, forces you into very specific and sometimes cumbersome ways to do things (due to app 'silos') and has very limited multitasking abilities. We don't need desktop OSs to follow suit. And even if you think of Apple as being that much more strict than Microsoft. Isn't it great that there used to be an alternative to that model? Why would you want that to go away and see Microsoft become similar to Apple in that regard? The only real difference is Apple isn't forcing it YET, they will soon enough, their goal will make it so there is no real difference between the mobile or desktop versions of iOS, you can see some of it already creeping into MacOS if you've used the latest version As fopr the OP and the other babies, adapt or use an older OS that fits your "wants" because you don't need your OS to function a specific way, you want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilt090 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Why do people keep saying this? Unless Windows 7 gets all the 'under the hood' improvements, staying with Windows 7 means you have a slower OS. you can always upgrade to xp for speed :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Descartes Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Wunderbar. This is ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The only real difference is Apple isn't forcing it YET, they will soon enough So anything negative that MS does is not so bad because surely (so you claim) Apple will soon be doing it as well? Even if that was true, that doesn't make it any better. :/ Depicus 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 In some ways, that is true. On the other hand, Apple's upcoming desktop OS doesn't force its fullscreen launcher on you. It doesn't force you into a fullscreen mode for all apps written in the latest and greatest API. It doesn't prevent you from side loading apps written in the latest and greatest API. It doesn't force you to log in with your Apple ID after you have installed the OS to even be able to use included apps like Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Messenger. I would hope to never see OS X become quite as restrictive as iOS. Similarly, I don't want it to happen to Windows either. It's bad enough that iOS needs 'jail breaking', allows for practically no customization, forces you into very specific and sometimes cumbersome ways to do things (due to app 'silos') and has very limited multitasking abilities. We don't need desktop OSs to follow suit. And even if you think of Apple as being that much more strict than Microsoft. Isn't it great that there used to be an alternative to that model? Why would you want that to go away and see Microsoft become similar to Apple in that regard? :sleep: Microsoft isn't forcing anything on anyone. If you don't want fullscreen apps then stick to the desktop. Windows 8 gives users plenty of choice so they can decide what works best for them. Also, your constant references to Win RT being "the latest and greatest" are meaningless. Users couldn't care less what APIs are used to develop an application and, secondly, Win RT is brand new, quite immature and not capable of anything that .NET or native code aren't capable of. Nobody is yearning for a Win RT-based app just because it was written in Win RT. Nobody. MFH 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickkins Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 So anything negative that MS does is not so bad because surely (so you claim) Apple will soon be doing it as well? Even if that was true, that doesn't make it any better. :/ It's called logic 8.0 :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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