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#1 jnelsoninjax

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:24

For more than a year, Prudhomme’s Lost Cajun Kitchen in Columbia, Lancaster County has offered a Sunday special: Diners who bring in a current church bulletin receive 10 percent off the purchase of their dinners.

But, the promotion has rubbed some people the wrong way, including John Wolff of Manheim Twp., Lancaster County, an atheist and member of the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

Wolff, who said he's never been to Prudhomme’s, recently filed a complaint with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission claiming the 22-year-old restaurant should not give discounts based on religion. “I bear them no ill will but they shouldn’t be pushing religion,” Wolff, 80, said.

The restaurant’s co-owner Sharon Prudhomme said she’s not about ready to pull the plug on the deal, which was designed to drum up business.

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She said many in the community, including pastors and ministers, are regular customers at Prudhomme’s, known for its Louisiana cuisine such as catfish po boys, alligator platters and crawfish.

“I thought ‘How can I boost our Sunday sales for dinner?’ And, I thought ‘Well you know what we have a lot of folks who go to church who come in throughout the week,’” Prudhomme said.

Shannon Powers, spokeswoman for the Human Relations Commission, confirmed the complaint had been filed. Prudhomme’s has 30 days to submit a written answer to the complaint, she added.

Over the past couple of months, Prudhomme said, she received two letters and a phone call from the Freedom From Religion Foundation demanding the restaurant end the promotion.

The Madison, Wis.-based group works to educate the public on matters relating to promoting the constitutional principle of separation between church and state. It filed suit over the Pennsylvania Legislature's naming 2012 the Year of the Bible.

“I just kind of blew it off. Gosh, I have more things to concentrate on,” Prudhomme said of the letters.

As for the phone call, Prudhomme, who does not attend church due to her work schedule, said she told the group she operates an independent restaurant and suggested non church-goers can pick up bulletins from any church and bring them to the restaurant to cash in on the discount.

“We’re the most unprejudiced of all. I don’t care if you are purple or polka dot. The only requirement we have is men must wear sleeves,” she said.

Prudhomme said she questions how the promotion differs from senior citizen discounts or free meals for kids under 12 years of age.

“A senior discount isn’t so bad. We’ll all get there eventually. But we won’t all become church-goers,” Wolff said.

He said came across Prudhomme’s bulletin promotion while doing an Internet search of the restaurant, which he had heard good things about. But, he said the restaurant’s discount for church-goers annoyed him. “My interest is in social justice and tolerance, and I get a little annoyed at all the religiosity,” he said.

Wolff said he was born a German Jew and was a devote Catholic from age 10 to 16. He said he became an atheist about 15 years ago when he became dismayed at the religious right.

He said the complaint against Prudhomme’s isn’t as much about the actual discount as it is the bigger picture of what his happening in this country. “I’d just be happy to bring this out in the open and get people to reflect a little bit,” Wolff said.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:30

The religious right does this kind of crap all the time, it's nothing new. They'll find any way they can of discriminating against non Christians. Credit to him for fighting it, I'm sure he's going to get a lot of death threats.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:36

Private restaurant can do what they want, he isn't forced to eat there.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:41

Get over it, you can't tell a restaurant what to do.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:43

I don't think the restaurant is doing anything wrong. They want to drum up business. Like the owner says,:
"I don’t care if you are purple or polka dot. The only requirement we have is men must wear sleeves,”

No one is stopping him from going into the restaurant and getting the exact service everyone else gets.
Sometimes you can become worse than what you rail against. Yes, even atheists can go overboard.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:45

Sure we are, we should just sit there and take the fact that we're constantly having discrimination rubbed in our faces because we choose not to follow the delusions of the masses.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:51

Sure we are, we should just sit there and take the fact that we're constantly having discrimination rubbed in our faces because we choose not to follow the delusions of the masses.


Aah, come on...
I get where you're coming from, but I think this is a bit overblown.
Like I said, he isn't being discriminated against. He can go, sit down, and receive the same level of service as everyone else.
Notice he didn't claim otherwise. He's just pi**ed of because of the bulletin 10% thing.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:54

No I don't think it's overblown. Atheists in America are one of the most hated and discriminated minorities, in fact studies suggests that they're just as hated if not more so than Muslims, and given how much America still cries about 9/11 that's a whole lotta hate.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:55

Sure we are, we should just sit there and take the fact that we're constantly having discrimination rubbed in our faces because we choose not to follow the delusions of the masses.


Have you filed complaints about bars that have ladies night?

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:55

This isn't a franchised restauraunt.
They can do what they please. Whether I agree with the actual promotion or not, I have a choice to eat there or not. Just don't eat there.

Though, I could see outrage if a restaurant opened that offered 10% off to non-believers. I guarantee you religious groups would do the same. And I would say the same thing. Don't eat there, and mind your own business, if you do not like it.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:57

Have you filed complaints about bars that have ladies night?


Nope. Because there are actually valid reasons for that beyond "share my delusion and be my pal"

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:01

Nope. Because there are actually valid reasons for that beyond "share my delusion and be my pal"


Oh, so it is OK to discriminate against one group, but not another as long as there is a good reason. Above you made some claim about the poor atheists being a minority. Who cares if a group being a minority, if it is discrimination then it is discrimination. The black population in South Africa is over 79%, but there was apartheid. I guess since they were not in the majority, by your standards, apartheid was OK because it was being done against the majority.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:04

No, it's because ladies nights aren't done in the name of discrimination, they're done in the name of fun. And your arrogance pretty much confirms my point anyway. I bet if it was a restaurant discriminating against wealthy white Christians the death threats would already be pouring in.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:10

No, it's because ladies nights aren't done in the name of discrimination, they're done in the name of fun. And your arrogance pretty much confirms my point anyway. I bet if it was a restaurant discriminating against wealthy white Christians the death threats would already be pouring in.


What arrogance? And if I were being arrogant, what point does it prove, that it is OK to discriminate against one group but not another? I also detect a bit of hatred in your comment, as you seem to believe that if you discriminate against white rich people (which is in the minority, being that there are far more poor people than rich, therefore it is discrimination) then they will threaten to kill you.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:11

Ok then let me give you a little test. Look for a person called Jessica Ahlquist, contact her and ask her how friendly she thinks most Americans are towards Atheists that stand up to the religious fundies in your country, or dare to demand their constitutional rights.