Asharae Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So here it is, the discussion to find out what to use as the base for Shift2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted July 3, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted July 3, 2012 I vote Arch base as from the messing around with it i have done, it is very stable and I personally prefer the pacman package manager over any of the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_K Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Arch base with suggestions on how to compile/get packages (like with arch, what is generic is what you get, want xawtv, you've got to get useless crap like LIRC whereas utilzing gentoo's USE flags if you get it on gentoo, you don't need it at all... I'd like a concept based around that somehow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 What's your niche / What are the goals of the distro / Who are you trying to "sell" this to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Majesticmerc MVC Posted July 3, 2012 MVC Share Posted July 3, 2012 Voting for an Arch base. Arch is pretty barebones as it is, so building off it would be the easiest way of creating a bloat-free distro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Personally I'd go with Arch. Minimal out of the box so it'll be easier to build on, rolling releases so you don't need to constantly churn out new ISO's, packages are typically 100% true to the author with no third party modifications, great support, centralized BSD-like configuration, a ports-like system is available, BSD style init system, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 my vote goes to Arch, it gives us the most stable base, with the freedom to do what we want without the pre-loaded bloat/apps of a ubuntu style base. Much of the apps we can write if need be no real risk of breaking things that are used by 1001 other apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Thepc Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I voted for Debian just because I think it would be easier to implement with Wubi (which I do think is going to be an important plus in terms of user installs). But other than that, I really don't have much of a preference. Debian's just one I've heard talked about a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Android Grinch 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted July 4, 2012 Veteran Share Posted July 4, 2012 Arch would be the best choice but correct me if I'm wrong... isn't Pacman a command line-only app? Most probably I'm wrong. I've only used Arch superficially in a friend's laptop. Also, we can't ignore Ubuntu's repos. The best app variety around (And still quite configurable as a base). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney T. Administrators Posted July 4, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 4, 2012 Our last version of Shift tried to use Arch, but we ran into major issues with branding. Couldn't get it to do what we wanted. I just wanted to give you that little tidbit. Maybe you guys have worked with it longer and can make it do what you want it to. I also agree with sanctified that Ubuntu reops can't be beat. They are updated very quickly and are fairly easy to roll into a Debian / Ubuntu based system.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Is there even a friendly GUI way to install Arch? Throwing a text installer at noobs in 2012 is a no-go, but again, depends on the target audience -- if this is just a forum project makes sense to respect the poll results, but if you're in for user-friendliness, either Debian or Ubuntu. I'm still holding my vote until I learn more about the goals of the distro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted July 4, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted July 4, 2012 My vote goes to Debian Testing alias 'Wheezy'. Reason? Stable foundation (its development has been frozen for the next stable release on June 30th) while allowing for relatively easy backporting of packages from Debian Unstable/Experimental. Arch has its merits, but the lack of GUI installer and configuration tools make it a no-go. Then there are the difficulties with rebasing the original Shift on Arch Barney mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pers3us Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Is there even a friendly GUI way to install Arch? Yes there is, please check out Chakra Project. Now i do not know how feasible it is to implement. Though, I voted for ubuntu, as it is really easy to implement and has huge support/package base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asharae Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 It seems to be at the minute that we have more people voting for Arch. I also voted for Arch because of the fact it is a barebones system and then can be set the way we want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Thepc Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 It seems to be at the minute that we have more people voting for Arch. I also voted for Arch because of the fact it is a barebones system and then can be set the way we want it to. so let's get to work! :D who wants to host the source/source control? should we do it on github? (lol, sorry I'm pushing github so much :p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asharae Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Right, so its official. We shall be using Arch as a base. The people have spoken :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassed Silver Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Arch, definitely. Best distro to build a distribution with LOTS of own content with on top when the devs are of mixed experience levels. Not lastly because it's damn well documented and "forum'd". :yes: (AFAIK at least) Glassed Silver:mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShMaunder Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 so let's get to work! :D who wants to host the source/source control? should we do it on github? (lol, sorry I'm pushing github so much :p) Can you even host that much stuff on Github. My account has like a (300MB?) limit. I think someone needs to host a Git server somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Thepc Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Can you even host that much stuff on Github. My account has like a (300MB?) limit. I think someone needs to host a Git server somewhere. really? wasn't aware that github had a limit.... from https://github.com/plans: Why don?t I see any disk space limits? GitHub does not have any hard storage limits. We have soft limits for each plan to prevent abuse. We find almost everyone uses a small fraction of this limit. If you find yourself needing more disk space for a legitimate use, please contact us. we could contact them if we needed it :D if not, then we could ask one of the people who were offering hosting if we could use it to host the source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGMurdockIII Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 id go with slackware or linux from scratch Slackware - http://www.slackware.com/ linux from scratch - http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffydemon Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Arch all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Here... is a couple links on how we would go about doing some custom Arch Installs/Mods: Live CD: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archiso Custom Install: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Remastering_the_Install_ISO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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