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#256 Dashel

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 18:44

Actually, Brandon. Clicking in the corners is a royal pain in the ass when you have multiple screens. VERY easy to just miss and end up in the next screen, thus achieving nothing.


Agree FFM, not that Brandon will take off the rose glasses long enough to acknowledge it. I also don't think its that easy when you have to travel across so much space considering how much larger today's displays are than on the SVGA ones where it made more sense. He thinks non-fullscreen RDP is working just fine too apparently.


#257 abysal

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:23

That’s what I'm pointing out. All the column view options are still there. Right click on a column name and select "select columns".


Windows Server 2008 R2 / Windows 7 Taskmgr have 30 column options.


Windows Server 2012 / Windows 8 Taskmgr have 37 column options. No column views were removed, only new ones became available. The only thing removed was the old method of adding columns.


The same thing goes for right-click options on processes. There are more options, not fewer, and nothing that was there before is missing that I can see.


Oh I see, it was moved to the details tab (previously under processed tab in the old taskmgr). Cool, looks like all that goodness is still there using the new Task Manager. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:36

Actually, Brandon. Clicking in the corners is a royal pain in the ass when you have multiple screens. VERY easy to just miss and end up in the next screen, thus achieving nothing.

have you even messed with the RP? microsoft already solved that problem

#259 Kaedrin

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:38

Than just use the keyboard shortcuts. :D They also have catchers in the corners now that are designed to catch the mouse and prevent it from going off onto the other screen. They work reasonably well.


I'm glad they added the catchers on one hand, and am annoyed by them on the other. The catchers interfere when dragging objects like icons or windows, and at the moment there is absolutely no good reason for a dragged item to be caught by them.

#260 BajiRav

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:40

I'm glad they added the catchers on one hand, and am annoyed by them on the other. The catchers interfere when dragging objects like icons or windows, and at the moment there is absolutely no good reason for a dragged item to be caught by them.

is too difficult too avoid those 6 pixels? :/

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:40

I'm glad they added the catchers on one hand, and am annoyed by them on the other. The catchers interfere when dragging objects like icons or windows, and at the moment there is absolutely no good reason for a dragged item to be caught by them.

there's been plenty of time to report something like that, that wouldn't be too hard for MS to fix
I guess now only time will tell if that gets fixed (it doesn't bother me as i don't use multiple monitors very often, but I can see how it would be annoying)

#262 Kaedrin

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:46

is too difficult too avoid those 6 pixels? :/


When you have 3+ monitors, and some of them are on top of one another, yes. It doesn't affect me often, but it is annoying when it does.

#263 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:46

have you even messed with the RP? microsoft already solved that problem


Been using it as my primary OS since it came out, and yes, I'd noticed the catch, but I still manage to miss quite often.

Also, the charms bar popping up when gaming REALLY needs to be sorted out.

#264 BajiRav

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:55

Been using it as my primary OS since it came out, and yes, I'd noticed the catch, but I still manage to miss quite often.

Also, the charms bar popping up when gaming REALLY needs to be sorted out.

Charms bar is most annoying when closing a full screen desktop window :/

#265 Kaedrin

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 19:57

there's been plenty of time to report something like that, that wouldn't be too hard for MS to fix
I guess now only time will tell if that gets fixed (it doesn't bother me as i don't use multiple monitors very often, but I can see how it would be annoying)


Yup. I really wish they would open the connect site for all users actually giving feedback on Windows so we could actually see how bugs are getting categorized (and so we can reintroduce the issue when it gets closed because someone can't reproduce it). The bug reporting tool provided to MSDN users is not very good, and its integration with step recorder is 80% broken. Step recorder works perfect for me if I use it on its own, but I use it in conjunction with the reporting tool it fails to capture pictures at least 80% of the time. (200 steps, 180 pictures missing).


Trying to do the step recorder with that tool and reporting the metro issues across surround with 3+ monitors? I had to entirely give up on showing them what I was seeing. It wouldn’t even capture one screen shot.

#266 HawkMan

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 20:58

you have no idea how computer illiterate the people I talk to every day are. They have trouble with everything and anything, including apple devices. Having two separate interfaces to switch between will make some of their heads implode :D many users can barely find the (currently visible) start button in windows 7.

And gestures on tablets are significantly more intuitive than MS's implementation of gestures with the mouse. I found metro gestures with the mouse were a pain in the ass and keyboard shortcuts were the only usable method. (many users I deal with can barely even comprehend the concept of a keyboard shortcut.)


For these users there isn't two UI's, there is either Metro, or there is the desktop with a full screen launchers that easier to find stuff in than their old menu.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 21:01

Actually, Brandon. Clicking in the corners is a royal pain in the ass when you have multiple screens. VERY easy to just miss and end up in the next screen, thus achieving nothing.

Also, tablets and desktops are totally different paradigms, and mouse gestures are nothing like as natural as those on a touch screen.


No corners work just fine on multiple screens. having two I should know, I have no trouble getting the start button to show. neither to top task switcher that I don't use, and the top corner between screens also has an invisible wall, I kind of wish they had it at the bottom to, but I don't really need it and sometimes it's annoying and in any case, it doesn't matter since RP since you can now use all corners on all screens. so you can use the left corners on the left screen and right corners on the right screen.

#268 HawkMan

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 21:03

I'm glad they added the catchers on one hand, and am annoyed by them on the other. The catchers interfere when dragging objects like icons or windows, and at the moment there is absolutely no good reason for a dragged item to be caught by them.


The catcher at the top was there in CP to.

#269 Stoffel

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 23:32

Charms bar is most annoying when closing a full screen desktop window :/


That should be no problem for most since nobody likes full screen apps here :)
They all have big monitors, full screen apps are useless

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:41

That should be no problem for most since nobody likes full screen apps here :)
They all have big monitors, full screen apps are useless

it's mostly a problem with games



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