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#31 iwod

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 17:31

Rapid Release Cycle is Great !
Update Release Mechniciam is not! ( Until Firefox 15+ )


#32 The Laughing Man

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 17:45

Because Chrome doesn't change their version number very often :rolleyes:

I never said they didn't, I got tired of the sluggishness mostly, and the addon issues as well.

Stupidest reason ever.

Your opinion.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 17:54

isn't the firefox browser becoming bloated? extensions this and that? adding this and that in general? I remember when firefox was slim and sexy

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 20:14

After reflecting again , I believe Rapid Release Mechanism SAVED Firefox. See this , umm , weirdly presented picture :p

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Apparently , after advent of FF 7 , 8 and 9 , users got Azure , Memory Improvements , Faster Startup and finally TypeInference , everything in 6x3 weeks , gradually. Had Firefox 4 still continue with lil security updates , i am darn sure all such improvements would have been just found @ "Firefox Minefield" , waiting to launch for users , after a year. Moreover you can see how FF share is even increasing stopping the old trend since FF 3.6 days. The reason why every darn browser is losing its share to Chrome is only due to the way Chrome advertizes and bundles Chrome to almost everything, and used to be fast and lightweight . An average user wouldn't even come to know about such details of a browser. Also the developer is ex-developer , i am pretty sure he didn't leave the job solely due to these updates , he should have mentioned other internal problems in management and stuff,instead.
Also it seems Chrome is fighting with IE, however it is Safari which is taking away FF's market-share , which is quite predictable as FF for OSX is not a good alternative to Safari 5 , and now 6.


isn't the firefox browser becoming bloated? extensions this and that? adding this and that in general? I remember when firefox was slim and sexy


I feel same for Chrome. When it came it was all fast and lightweight. Now it has inbuilt flash , pdf viewer , translator. Installing some other softwares ends up them adding their own toolbars to Chrome , just like IE6 times, Adding addons and opening more than say 5 tabs makes it take hell lot of ram often leading to crashes and feels fragile to use.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 20:23

make it silent updates, problem solved. I think people just want to complain, well because complaining is complaining. FF and Mozilla have really upped their game with the past releases, so by all means if you can't enjoy the browser, go get IE which gets updates in 'x' amount of years when MS finally decides to get off their backsides and produce something.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 20:45

Use latest firefox on desktop and on android , for once , to see how they have improved.

Firefox is my backup browser, so it's installed on all the computers I use. It's even my primary browser on my work laptop. I tried the latest release on mobile. What used to be a good product back in the day is just a subpar product, and the mobile version was NEVER good. It has always run slow on my Incredible, and it was slow on my Galaxy Nexus.

#37 Growled

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 00:54

I must be the odd man out but I love the rapid updates. I hate waiting months for the latest and greatest.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 00:58

I'm not going to give up Firefox, but I'm not jumping to get every 'Update' either.

#39 ViperAFK

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:41

Rapid release is superior IMO, but mozilla should have implemented silent updates and addressed extension compatibility issues before switching to the new cycle. If they had done so the new cycle wouldn't have gotten the poor reception that is has.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:50

I feel same for Chrome. When it came it was all fast and lightweight. Now it has inbuilt flash , pdf viewer , translator. Installing some other softwares ends up them adding their own toolbars to Chrome , just like IE6 times, Adding addons and opening more than say 5 tabs makes it take hell lot of ram often leading to crashes and feels fragile to use.


Then apparently you don't know what you're talking about. The built in PDF viewer doesn't slow Chrome down at all because *pause for gasp* those modules are only loaded when they're actually needed. Nor does other software add toolbars to chrome, you cannot in fact add toolbars to chrome, you can only install extensions. I can open 30+ tabs in Chrome and it doesn't slow down one bit, and as with all browsers with tab process isolation, it's very rare for tab crashes to hang the main thread. All browsers with TPI use more memory, it's a price you pay for extra stability and security. I've been using Chrome for 3 years and I've only seen a couple of occasions on which a crashed tab has caused the main thread to also crash.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 04:47

Rapid release is superior IMO, but mozilla should have implemented silent updates and addressed extension compatibility issues before switching to the new cycle. If they had done so the new cycle wouldn't have gotten the poor reception that is has.

Agreed 100%. I use Aurora/Nightly channels most of the time and having daily updates is nice, but I would really like silent updates without the UAC popup asking whether to restart. Seriously, if you can program it to download the update without asking, then why not just sit back and wait until I restart the browser to install without even prompting. Not a hard concept to understand, Mozilla. Nonetheless, it's the addons that are keeping me hooked on Firefox, otherwise I'd have ditched back to chrome much sooner.

#42 Shiranui

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:02

I don't hate Firefox updates - I just hate Firefox.

Ditched it for Chrome ages ago and never looked back.

#43 Boz

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:26

It's not an update what made me stop using Firefox. It's the fact that they really haven't made huge strides in optimizing the lightness, memory usage and speed of Firefox. Chrome no matter how many extensions I have installed and how many tabs I have open feels so snappy that it's insane. It's super fast too.

Sorry Mozilla, but the reality is that you need to make stuff WORK better not make updates every few weeks and then complain it's what it is killing Firefox.

Updates or not, Firefox is just not as good in experience. Simple as that.

Make clean clean design, super super light memory requirements and make everything snappy and you can compete with Chrome, otherwise there's nothing that will make me go back to using it.

#44 bogas04

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:52

Then apparently you don't know what you're talking about. The built in PDF viewer doesn't slow Chrome down at all because *pause for gasp* those modules are only loaded when they're actually needed. Nor does other software add toolbars to chrome, you cannot in fact add toolbars to chrome, you can only install extensions. I can open 30+ tabs in Chrome and it doesn't slow down one bit, and as with all browsers with tab process isolation, it's very rare for tab crashes to hang the main thread. All browsers with TPI use more memory, it's a price you pay for extra stability and security. I've been using Chrome for 3 years and I've only seen a couple of occasions on which a crashed tab has caused the main thread to also crash.


You may know better , but toolbars do exist , they come from utorrent , anti viruses and many other softwares. Anyways , let's not turn it to chrome discussion thread :)

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:57

I don't hate Firefox updates - I just hate Firefox.

Ditched it for Chrome ages ago and never looked back.


Well what was the point of your post then.