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#16 +Vykranth

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 09:50

I agree. If you truly believe in diversity you should believe that even those who believe different from you should have their say. That is not we see from the left now.


Advocating discrimination against others regarding one of their characteristics is not an opinion or a belief: it is an abhorrent absurdity in the 21st century. Denying rights to other because of their gender, skin color, sexual orientation is an attack against someone's individuality.

Take DADT: gays can serve in the US military as long as they do not express their sexual orientation, as long as they hide what they are. Gays are good enough to be soldiers, to serve their country and potentially die for it but not good enough for them to have the same rights as others so they are second or third class citizens?
Where is the equality?

By the way, do not bother citing Voltaire and his supposed "defend the right to say it' citation, there is more than enough in Voltaire's work against religious intolerance and fanatisms from all sides to fill the forum.


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Posted 30 July 2012 - 10:05

I agree with this statement. The only people who can have rights in this country are liberals. Sorry, everyone else, but our military men didn't die for you, they died for us liberals.
You only have freedom unless you are a liberal, anyone else sorry...


Not trying to defend the liberals, but that rhetoric sounds really familiar. Where have I heard it before? Could it possibly be "Jesus died so everyone can escape from being doomed to hell, but you only count as 'everyone' if you're a Christian"?

Naaaahh...

#18 roadwarrior

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 13:51

Not trying to defend the liberals, but that rhetoric sounds really familiar. Where have I heard it before? Could it possibly be "Jesus died so everyone can escape from being doomed to hell, but you only count as 'everyone' if you're a Christian"?

Naaaahh...

Correction to your quote there: Jesus died so that those who have faith in Him can be saved.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 14:01

kind of off topic, but it would be funny if Apple, Microsoft, and Linus Torvalds all came out and said 'We disagree with xyz lifestyle!'

then the xyz lifestyle people would be computerless....

(disagreeing with something doesn't mean you discriminate against it)

#20 roadwarrior

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 14:10

kind of off topic, but it would be funny if Apple, Microsoft, and Linus Torvalds all came out and said 'We disagree with xyz lifestyle!'

then the xyz lifestyle people would be computerless....

(disagreeing with something doesn't mean you discriminate against it)


And Chick-fil-a isn't discriminating against anyone either. They don't refuse service (or jobs for that matter) to people based on their sexual orientation or marital status. They are also a privately owned company, so they don't have to cater to the demands of shareholders. The owners of the company are free to express their views on issues without having to worry about being voted out of the CEO chair by people who disagree with them. The owners are also free to make donations to organizations that support their own beliefs.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:08

Cute pic I found on Facebook. Sums up the situation pretty nicely:

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:18

Hmm spout about how you have to respect others, be open and tolerate their views and choices, then turn around and call for people's heads when someone takes another view.

Yup, right has become wrong, and wrong.... right. It's a sad world we live in when tolerance is now 100% intolerance with a side of self-righteous indignation.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:24

Hmm spout about how you have to respect others, be open and tolerate their views and choices, then turn around and call for people's heads when someone takes another view.

Yup, right has become wrong, and wrong.... right. It's a sad world we live in when tolerance is now 100% intolerance with a side of self-righteous indignation.


Didn't you get the memo? Liberal tolerance doesn't apply to straight white Christians.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:40

Correction to your quote there: Jesus died so that those who have faith in Him can be saved.



Ah yes, Mr. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", if ever a perfect quote for fitting into the context of "you can't marry someone because you are different then us".

Hmm spout about how you have to respect others, be open and tolerate their views and choices, then turn around and call for people's heads when someone takes another view.

Yup, right has become wrong, and wrong.... right. It's a sad world we live in when tolerance is now 100% intolerance with a side of self-righteous indignation.




Didn't you get the memo? Liberal tolerance doesn't apply to straight white Christians.



Funny how that quote seems to fit the other shoe as well. :whistle:

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:48

Funny how that quote seems to fit the other shoe as well. :whistle:


I think what people do not understand is that no where does the Bible suggest you tolerate sins, nor the blatant disregard for what is Holy and Pure. many people try to fall back into the 'Christian's must accept everything to be good Christians', when that is crazy.

Be of the world, but not part of it. Accepting what you know (as a Christian) to be wrong, is in itself abhorrent.

Anyhoo, aside from that. The point that he was making, is that for a group that wants acceptance and openness, and pure tolerance of belief and rights, they sure call for the hurt when people take the opposite stance from theirs.

The main main point being, 'white' folks, and also Christians in general, have begun seeing persecution for just their beliefs at an alarming rate - especially when other groups claim to want diversity and to welcome all others.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:54

The main main point being, 'white' folks, and also Christians in general, have begun seeing persecution for just their beliefs at an alarming rate - especially when other groups claim to want diversity and to welcome all others.


What does "white folks" have to do with anything?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:55

What does "white folks" have to do with anything?


you obviously didn't read any posts leading up to that did you?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:56

Cute pic I found on Facebook. Sums up the situation pretty nicely:

It wasn't just his view. He stated it was his company's view. So that image is slightly incorrect. (I feel the difference between a man's view and his company's view is important to distinguish). Not only that, but the company's foundation (not his foundation) are donating to groups that wish to deny rights and freedoms to gay and bisexual people (while allowing heterosexual people those rights and freedoms).

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:57

Bingo. This is much ado about nothing.


Except that the CEO himself said so? LOL.. you reap what you sow. There is no place in America for bigoted, racist religious nuts. If you can't keep your religion and your own views to yourself and not undermine and discriminate against others you don't deserve any rights and everything you get.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:57

Look, this guy was asked his opinion during an interview. He's against homosexuality and gays marrying. Big deal! Should we boycott stores and eateries whose owners personally support gays? He was asked about how he personally felt. He was not buying ad space and throwing up bill boards saying "Eat more chickin' and down with queers!" You go to the restaruant to buy damn food, not a belief. People disagree sometimes so grow the **** up and move on! The crap that makes the news these days :rolleyes: