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[KingCracker]

An SAS veteran has been locked up for two years after a gun and ammo was found in his garage at home.
The hero sergeant was pulled from secret operations in Helmand when armed police discovered the semi-automatic Glock pistol following a tip-off.
They also found 300 rounds of ammunition.
A specially convened court martial heard he had a distinguished record of bravery in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The soldier had been at the heart of some of the most fierce firefights against the Taliban and Saddam Hussein’s forces.
But last night he was behind bars in Colchester Military Correction Centre after admitting illegally keeping a gun at his Hereford home. http://www.mirror.co...ntenced-1169602 Served his country put his life on the line for it and now is serving 2 years for this?!? Give him asylum in the U.S and make him a citizen asap.

[nicconics]

Backwards ass country. Go die for it, but keep a handgun and die IN it

[TheLegendOfMart]

The law is the law, he doesn't get special privileges no one forced him to sign up to the SAS.

[KingCracker]

TheLegendOfMart, on 04 August 2012 - 05:46, said:

The law is the law, he doesn't get special privileges no one forced him to sign up to the SAS.

Yeah I guess the British don't care one bit about their men in uniform. He probably nearly died several times but yep law is law who cares!

nicconics, on 04 August 2012 - 05:45, said:

Backwards ass country. Go die for it, but keep a handgun and die IN it

Send in SEAL team six and extract him and bring him to the U.S lol.

[TheLegendOfMart]

KingCracker, on 04 August 2012 - 05:50, said:

Yeah I guess the British don't care one bit about their men in uniform. He probably nearly died several times but yep law is law who cares!

Send in SEAL team six and extract him and bring him to the U.S lol.

Yeah thats quite a leap in logic, I agree with the law so suddenly I don't give a toss about my countries men and women in the army????

I donate to Help 4 Heroes a British Charity that supports wounded soldiers, I also help with fund raisers for said charity, I have massive amounts of respect for someone who signs up to defend my country and way of life, I am disgusted at how my government treats the current and ex-forces.

Having said that the law is the law, you can't pick and choose what laws not to abide by because you don't agree with it, he is supposed to be the best of the best, an example to the rest of the forces. They can't just let him get away with it.

[KingCracker]

TheLegendOfMart, on 04 August 2012 - 05:54, said:

Yeah thats quite a leap in logic, I agree with the law so suddenly I don't give a toss about my countries men and women in the army????

I donate to Help 4 Heroes a British Charity that supports wounded soldiers, I also help with fund raisers for said charity, I have massive amounts of respect for someone who signs up to defend my country and way of life, I am disgusted at how my government treats the current and ex-forces.

Having said that the law is the law, you can't pick and choose what laws not to abide by because you don't agree with it, he is supposed to be the best of the best, an example to the rest of the forces. They can't just let him get away with it.

And this is an example of why I don't want the U.S to turn into England+ having a "evil" gun that's "sole purpose is to kill" will get you prison time, that's B.S to the highest degree.

[Ryoken]

I love how you attack the Country and not the man for violating the law..

What ever he did for his country is secondary to following the laws OF that country..

Just because you are a vet, or a hero doesn't just mean you can have illegal weapons, or speed, or rape someone, or anything else. In a country founded on law, the law must apply to everyone. You can't just pick and choose who it applies too.

And yes, I'm sure the man that fought for his country wants the US to charge in shooting his people all because he did something illegal.. Would make him one hell of a hero then.

[KingCracker]

Ryoken, on 04 August 2012 - 05:57, said:

I love how you attack the Country and not the man for violating the law..

What ever he did for his country is secondary to following the laws OF that country..

Just because you are a vet, or a hero doesn't just mean you can have illegal weapons, or speed, or rape someone, or anything else. In a country founded on law, the law must apply to everyone. You can't just pick and choose who it applies too.

And yes, I'm sure the man that fought for his country wants the US to charge in shooting his people all because he did something illegal.. Would make him one hell of a hero then.

Its B.S it even got to that but that's the British two years for having that lol. Messed up.

[TheLegendOfMart]

KingCracker, on 04 August 2012 - 05:57, said:

And this is an example of why I don't want the U.S to turn into England+ having a "evil" gun that's "sole purpose is to kill" will get you prison time, that's B.S to the highest degree.

Who said guns are evil?

The law has banned handguns, he had a gun, hence jail time.

[KingCracker]

TheLegendOfMart, on 04 August 2012 - 06:00, said:

Who said guns are evil?

The law has banned handguns, he had a gun, hence jail time.

Oh come on the government bans them because they want the people to believe they are bad dangerous things hence "evil".

[macrosslover]

I don't understand, there's no exemption to the law for him, although he's in the armed forces? Do they leave their guns on base when they go home for off time and such? What about the armed police you have there, are they allowed to have guns at home? If them why not the soliders? And all this from a tip..who's to say the "tip" didn't plant the stuff there. I know you all have low gun crime violence over there, but this seems pretty stupid imo.

[TheLegendOfMart]

No, the government bans them to stop people walking into schools and shooting up people which is why they banned handguns after the Dunblane tragedy, they are trying to crack down on the gun culture infiltrating the UK, to stop rival gangs killing innocent people in the crossfire which has happened quite a few times over the years, little kids losing their lives.

Before you say it, the answer isn't to give everyone guns.

[Ryoken]

I'll just leave this here for all the Americans and how many are saved by their guns.. http://news.national...-world-graphic/

Regardless the US is a lost cause.
It would take all the armies of a world searching for a year to find all the guns in the US.. Not to mention generations of education to remove the deep seeded cultural paranoia so many Americans seem to have to anyone having authority.. Honestly don't know how a country can survive when so many of it's people don't respect or trust their own government, police, armies, doctors, scientists, etc..


btw.. from the sounds of it, he was convicted in a Military Court.. which probably explains the long sentence.. Then again having an Assault Weapon in most countries is gonna get you some time behind bars.. It's not a farmer with a shotgun for duck hunting.

[Albert Bonici]

"Backward Ass Country",

[Ryoken]

macrosslover, on 04 August 2012 - 06:03, said:

I don't understand, there's no exemption to the law for him, although he's in the armed forces? Do they leave their guns on base when they go home for off time and such? What about the armed police you have there, are they allowed to have guns at home? If them why not the soliders? And all this from a tip..who's to say the "tip" didn't plant the stuff there. I know you all have low gun crime violence over there, but this seems pretty stupid imo.

Armed police in the UK rarely even carry their weapons, they get them on a case by case basis..

And in many armies in the world your weapons don't leave the base [ unless deployed ].. you don't just take them home and put them in your garage.

So no, there's no exemption for him, he broke the law, and from the looks of it, he broke the Military law, which means he get to spend time in a cell, and I can assure you this wouldn't be some obscure law that he wouldn't have known about. He would know full well the restrictions on the firearm if it was military issue, and if it wasn't military issue, then he got it illegally, not by just walking into a walmart.