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[FlintyV]

Nathaniel Smith_329019, on 06 August 2012 - 23:43, said:

Love all the opinions of non firearm owners and others that have no clue. The beauty of the mass sheep heard that will believe what the media says LOL. The same people that believe a penny falling from a skyscraper will kill a person. lol yea that type.

So people who don't own a firearm aren't entitled to voice their opinion?

What do you think the media is telling people?

[KingCracker]

FlintyV, on 06 August 2012 - 23:55, said:

So people who don't own a firearm aren't entitled to voice their opinion?

What do you think the media is telling people?

They are entitled to their opinion but it doesn't mean we have to except it. The media is usually biased towards gun owners and usually gives out misinformation. The New York Times showed a picture of a 1911 and captioned it as a glock .40 when refering to what the shooter in Colorado used. USA Today mentioned that the shooter in Colorado used a glock 40mm. A 40mm? Where do you get those? Lol, the media tells us lots of things and their usually pushing an agenda and in doing so get the information wrong in terms of showing what was used.

[Richteralan]

mudslag, on 06 August 2012 - 23:18, said:

Iv seen CNN and Fox both correct reports to earlier reports a lot. The night of the Co batman shooting the initial reports were of more killed then what really happened, they later came back and corrected that initial claim. By assuming the media doesn't correct reporting is no different then ChrisJ assuming misinformation is a gov intentional lie.

Let's wait and see.

[KingCracker]

The FBI labeled this as a terrorist action.

[Richteralan]

roadwarrior, on 06 August 2012 - 23:31, said:

https://www.google.c...chrome&ie=UTF-8

Ah...so THOSE are considered actions.

But I am confused. Besides all the criticizing and such, is there any results or say, REAL actions to change this Patriot Act?

[DocM]

Another dropped ball -

And he was frontman for a skinhead band.

http://www.latimes.c...0,2390104.story

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WASHINGTON -- Federal investigators had “looked at” Sikh temple gunman Wade Michael Page more than once because of his associations with right-wing extremists and the possibility that he was providing funding to a domestic terrorist group, but law enforcement officials at the time determined there was not enough evidence of a crime to open an investigation, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, would not say Monday which law enforcement agency had considered investigating Page, or when.

Before his rampage Sunday at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., that left him and six others dead and three critically wounded, Page was known to civil rights groups as a member of two racist skinhead bands – End Apathy and Definite Hate. He was also believed to have been a low-level member of a national white supremacist group called the Hammerskins.
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[ChrisJ1968]

Link:

About the aurora shooting: What's up with the cops being told about these things ahead of time? this report raises some logical questions. So the feds knew about the sikh shooter and the Aurora shooter.
it begs to ask: WTH?

[SupportGeek]

ChrisJ1968, on 07 August 2012 - 05:15, said:

Link:

About the aurora shooting: What's up with the cops being told about these things ahead of time? this report raises some logical questions. So the feds knew about the sikh shooter and the Aurora shooter.
it begs to ask: WTH?

Not that Im saying anything concrete of course, but, Fast and Furious didn't work, and 'Bama was going to work behind the scenes on gun control.
Maybe a few dropped psychiatric reports, the right words whispered in peoples ears to effectively ignore dangerous people until they become REALLY REALLY dangerous. (by then of course, too late) and you set up just the right conditions for a powderkeg.

[Aethec]

ChrisJ1968, on 07 August 2012 - 05:15, said:

Link:

About the aurora shooting: What's up with the cops being told about these things ahead of time? this report raises some logical questions. So the feds knew about the sikh shooter and the Aurora shooter.
it begs to ask: WTH?

Out of all the potentially dangerous people, only a few actually are.
You can choose: either the government puts pretty much everyone with extreme views in jail, or they just monitor them even though they may be dangerous.
There's no good solution.

[Azies]

Aethec, on 07 August 2012 - 11:32, said:

Out of all the potentially dangerous people, only a few actually are.
You can choose: either the government puts pretty much everyone with extreme views in jail, or they just monitor them even though they may be dangerous.
There's no good solution.

Both, if someone is going around saying "I'm going to shoot that muslim piece of ****" they need to be arrested. If they're going around saying "Barack HUSSEIN OBama", they need to be watched, hard. Because they're potential terrorists."

[Richteralan]

Azies, on 07 August 2012 - 14:40, said:

Both, if someone is going around saying "I'm going to shoot that muslim piece of ****" they need to be arrested. If they're going around saying "Barack HUSSEIN OBama", they need to be watched, hard. Because they're potential terrorists."

I guess the goal is to be like China.