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#16 OP kraized

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:28

Well, if you're willing to go that route and are convinced that it's a filesystem issue. Root your Nexus, and reformat your internal storage to fat32... problem solved

As for going the ipad way, are you sure it won't do the same ? ( I really don't like Apple in anyway, never played with their devices so I actually don't know )

You really should find a new way to sort your stuff, because I can bet you another device someday will do the same behavior and you will revisit this again. Why not do the jump and be done with it ?

Exif is the proper way


How would I format the storage as FAT32? I've asked the question on XDA and been told it's impossible. My NX7 is already rooted and unlocked.

It's not just photos anyway. It happens to all my music as well.


#17 Ryoken

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 19:59

You sort your music by date modified too o_0

Listen, there are programs out there that should be able to edit the filenames of all your stuff to include the date.. and then there it is, for good.

All your waiting for is for some app installed in Windows to go through and change them itself while scanning images or something. It happens. And then you'd be SOL. Put the information that you need into the filename. That's what it's there for, persistent information. You can also update the EXIF data in other programs.

In short, do it right, do it now, and never need to worry about it. Relying on data like modified is begging for trouble, and if it gets changes on your computer, you'd be screwed. Changing the names and you are safe, regardless of what happens down the road.

#18 OP kraized

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 20:07

No, I don't sort music by date modified, I was just saying. But even if I did why would I want to change all the file names of my music files to include the date? You're all missing the point I'm making. The copied file on the NX7 has had its timestamp changed - without the file having been modified - that's not how it should be.

A file copied from one location to another should have the same timestamp at the destination as it is at the source.

#19 z0phi3l

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 20:16

No, I don't sort music by date modified, I was just saying. But even if I did why would I want to change all the file names of my music files to include the date? You're all missing the point I'm making. The copied file on the NX7 has had its timestamp changed - without the file having been modified - that's not how it should be.

A file copied from one location to another should have the same timestamp at the destination as it is at the source.


You're not getting it, it's doing the correct thing, if you copy a file the timestamp is supposed to change, you just did an operation on the file, you moved it, that other devices are doing it wrong, and you happen to like the wrong functionality, doesn't change the fact that it's still wrong

#20 georgevella

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 20:22

You're not getting it, it's doing the correct thing, if you copy a file the timestamp is supposed to change, you just did an operation on the file, you moved it, that other devices are doing it wrong, and you happen to like the wrong functionality, doesn't change the fact that it's still wrong

No you are getting it wrong. A file move modifies the parent directory and not the file - the file contents remain the same hence the file modified date/time should not change. On the other hand, the directory's modified date/time should be update because, well, you modified the directory's metadata/records/whatever you want to call the data stored in the FS tables.

This behaviour is not correct and changing the way one stores his files because of a bug is not the right way to go.

#21 Ryoken

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 20:22

I'm not missing the point..

Just because we want to think of it as an external HDD or something doesn't make it so. It's a different OS, different filesystem, I didn't expect it, but I can't say I'm shocked that it ignores any metadata associated with files moved to it and sets it's own.

What I'm saying it, you shouldn't be relying on any of that data to begin with. That data changes, sometimes with your permission, sometimes because another program decides to go rogue.. It should NEVER be relied on.

I wasn't saying you should rename your music.. you said earlier that you sort your pictures by date. You should rename your pictures. If you plan on sorting by Date, and that is important to you [ as in you would be ****ED if tomorrow you log in and all your images have todays date ] then you should be putting that information into the filename. It's that simple.

I know for a fact that the Nexus 7 and it's filesys are not alone in treating files copied from other filesystem as new files.

I'm trying to point out the fact that the information that you find important, the date modified stamp, is something that should NOT be relied on. Ever. The fact that it's not the same on your Nexus should be little more than a trivial piece of information to you, rather than rendering the device useless.

#22 Lord Zog

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 23:05

Are you sure android is looking at the modifed date and NOT the created date? Maybe Jelly Bean looks at the wrong date? Hence why FTP shows the wrong date also on your NX7.. Your GS2 running JB will be using a heavily moddifed CM9 till we get official drivers for your S2, so, it might still read the modified date and not created date.. Just a thought..

#23 moloko

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:33

I just checked my samsung phone and it keeps the date that is on the same file in windows. Same with my nook. (just looking at different devices).

The others are correct though. You should not be relying on this as a way to view and sort your files. Get an Exif editor and label your files correctly. Yes it is a pain in the ass but will help you in the future. Doing it my Exif or flie name is your way to go. Then there will be no issues with any devices. What you are doing is not best business practices and you need to alter to a better standard. I am not being mean. Just trying to help as others are giving you here.

#24 Ryoken

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:22

Yep, do it right, once, and never need to worry about it again.

#25 mikearnill

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 06:07

I had also recently bought nexus 7 and it is one of the coolest thing I had ever seen. It have damn huge screen, cool user interface and have many other cool features. I love to use it.



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