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#46 Stoffel

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 20:04

OHHHHHH!!!! Now that could probably work, MX is probably Modern eXperience I'm guessing, and they've used it for the new One Note app so it fits that way.


That's what I was thinking too


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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:38

they admitted to it when it was in Real Steel on billboards in a place called BING ARENA!

And Larry, i disagree with you QHD/QWHD screens are now becoming normative. That's still not 4K but it's close. I fully expect the new consoles to support 1600p, although it may be the way they support 1080p now. the native resolution may be 1080p or higher, then upscaling to 1600p and perhaps higher. And while i 100% agree with you that this generation has lasted way too long and that annoucements were due like E3 2011, it is amazing what devs are able to do with that limited technology. as someone who's been playing games for over 30 years (as i well like to advertise) i am always taken aback by what comes out of those miniscule 512MB of memory.

And there's nothing wrong with Xbox 720. i would be annoyed it it'd be called anything else, the name Xbox 360 grew on me so much, it's practically part of my DNA now. What's wrong with 720? it's two nice round ones. like this:

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Once you think of 720 like those lovely parts of dear Ms. Kasumi, there's no going back :rofl:

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 20:44

LOL @ people getting bent out of shape over a name .. and now damn good in well they will still pick the console up

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 20:51

They'll probably stay their full mentally challenged route they're on now and call it Modern Xbox
Or perhaps Modern Bob.

As for 4k support, not going to happen, there is no point, 4k wont be mainstream till after the lifesycle of the Modern Bob
blu-ray might happen, the royalty fees will just get passed on to the consumer, maybe in an xbox live fee hike, they'll need
to figure out how to fix their Modern UI on the Bob to display more ads though, I don't think 5 per section is enough.

/s? (maybe)

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 21:09

They'll probably stay their full mentally challenged route they're on now and call it Modern Xbox
Or perhaps Modern Bob.

As for 4k support, not going to happen, there is no point, 4k wont be mainstream till after the lifesycle of the Modern Bob
blu-ray might happen, the royalty fees will just get passed on to the consumer, maybe in an xbox live fee hike, they'll need
to figure out how to fix their Modern UI on the Bob to display more ads though, I don't think 5 per section is enough.

/s? (maybe)


Don't worry about ads! On the new (New-new-new-NXE!) dashboard, there are even more tiles to display ads on!

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The new Xbox won't support 4K, unless they want to make it incredibly un-affordable for the average consumer, it isn't going to happen until next-next generation.

However, I do believe it will include Blu-ray, download only simply isn't viable as not enough people have good internet connections.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 14:10

it will have quad HD native, for sure - 2560 x 1440. i can live with that until 4K becomes a reality. tho i suspect the new consoles will be able to upscale to 4K, even if it won't look any different from QHD.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 14:14

I don't get the reasoning behind the (fan created) name "Xbox 720"

It's twice as much as a 360? It can do 720p? etc.


I think it's a sarcastic name. The name XBox 360 was not really logical to begin with.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 14:21

I would argue that it is the wrong time entirely for Microsoft or Sony to release a new console. 1080p's reign is about to end, 4k's is about to start.


You're kidding right?

Do you know that most of 360 games are not 1080p ? Lot of them are 720p and the image is upscaled by the console in real time to output 1080p. Some of them are even under 720p resolution. Some of them are actually running a 540p resolution (Alan Wake was one of them i think). If you ever saw a game running in real 1080p at a constant fps and with slight aa and aniso enabled you can clearly see the difference with the supposed 1080p mode of the 360. A good PC right now can strugle to output real 1080p at a constant 60fps with aa, aniso, hdr and tesselation enabled when it comes to the best looking games on the market.

Next generation wont be strong enough to run 4k not even close to it. It will take years for 4k TV to be common enough to worth it. Anyway next generation will barely be enough powerful to do real 1080p at 60fps with all the bells and whistles next generation of consoles will bring.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 14:33

You're kidding right?

Do you know that most of 360 games are not 1080p ? Most of them are 720p and the image is stretched by the console in real time to output 1080p. Some of them are even under 720p resolution. Some of them are actually running a 540p resolution (Alan Wake was one of them i think). If you ever saw a game running in real 1080p at a constant fps and with slight aa and aniso enabled you can clearly see the difference with the supposed 1080p mode of the 360. A good PC right now can strugle to output real 1080p at a constant 60fps with aa, aniso, hdr and tesselation enabled when it comes to the best looking games on the market.

Next generation wont be strong enough to run 4k not even close to it. It will take years for 4k TV to be common enough to worth it. Anyway next generation will barely be enough powerful to do real 1080p at 60fps with all the bells and whistles next generation of consoles will bring.

What I have been saying, and absolutely agree 110%. No way in hell will this next gen will have games in 4k. Absolutely zero. I stick by this for sure. The one and only thing that may, and it is a small may, support 4k, is the dashboard itself. That is it.

Right now only pretty damn high end GPU's can run games at 4k (4096 x 2160) and their cost is that of an entire console and then some. And in some instances they do not even get 30 FPS depending on graphics settings. So yeah, just do not see it happening purely based on logic, never mind adoption rate, etc.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 14:39

If they actually name it Xbox 720 I'm done with Microsoft.


You do know that it's just the media calling it 720 right?

If they actually name it Xbox 720 I'm done with Microsoft.


You do know that it's just the media calling it 720 right?

#56 Colin McGregor

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 14:42

And there's nothing wrong with Xbox 720. i would be annoyed it it'd be called anything else, the name Xbox 360 grew on me so much, it's practically part of my DNA now. What's wrong with 720? it's two nice round ones. like this:

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Once you think of 720 like those lovely parts of dear Ms. Kasumi, there's no going back :rofl:


I hope your kidding and don't actually find pixels sexy, I weep for you if you do.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 14:46

No kidding! If they name it that, I'm just gonna do a 720º turn and walk away!!! :angry:

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If you do that you'd still be facing it ... guessing defeats the purpose ... doe a + - 1degree :) ...

I hope your kidding and don't actually find pixels sexy, I weep for you if you do.


i hope he was not kidding, bring back the mud wrestling (there was a game something roses) back in full HD with a lot of titalacious (yes, it is a word now) physics included in it

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 15:44

What I have been saying, and absolutely agree 110%. No way in hell will this next gen will have games in 4k. Absolutely zero. I stick by this for sure. The one and only thing that may, and it is a small may, support 4k, is the dashboard itself. That is it.

Right now only pretty damn high end GPU's can run games at 4k (4096 x 2160) and their cost is that of an entire console and then some. And in some instances they do not even get 30 FPS depending on graphics settings. So yeah, just do not see it happening purely based on logic, never mind adoption rate, etc.


Also those high end multi gpus setup are able to run current games at high def. But current games are not optimized to use the power that those multi gpus setup offer (and not optimized for such high resolution). It's highly unlikely that those multi gpus setup will be able to run next gen games at the same resolution with all the high quality settings enabled.

The question is what do we really want.

Current quality of gfx at 4k
Or next gen gfx at 1080p.

For me the choice is obvious i'm going for next gen gfx at 1080p.

One day 1080p wont be enough (not too far from now). There's a limit of what you can do in real time (not render) with 1080 vertical pixels when it comes to the details of the gfx. I'm not a big fan of those blurry new aa settings i prefer to use a subtle aa setting. But i don't think we are curently close enough to this limit to make it worth running 4k when you consider the cost involved.

I'm perfectly fine with my 1080p 32" HDTV (that i use as a monitor) and i think there's plenty of room left with this resolution for now. PC games look great and way better than 360 games on my HDTV. My 6950 is rushing a bit though i'll need to upgarde to a 670 when the price will be down to close 200$.

It remembers me the first time i ran a game at 1024x768 resolution (can't recall which game it was). It looked really crisp but the screen was really empty and void of the details needed to exploit this resolution at its full potential. Current hardware might be able to do 4k. But current hardware surely are not able to do real 4k with all the details you can fit in such a high resolution.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 21:03

If you do that you'd still be facing it ... guessing defeats the purpose ... doe a + - 1degree :) ...




#60 neoadorable

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 14:51

was not kidding colin, i find pixels definitely sexy. do you not find images of scantily clad women sexy? you're an "only the real thing" kinda guy? you must be very fortunate to have hordes of barely-clothed and proportionally-perfect women lining up for a shot, pun intended.

regarding the naming, i don't think it's just the media...pretty much confirmed it will be the name. i mean when it was in a movie that was basically paid for by Microsoft (Bing Arena, anyone?), then that says a lot.

on the resolution debate, i believe the new consoles will have Eyefinity-like tech that will allow multi-screen gaming, but obviously no native 4K. maybe upscaling. they will definitely be capable of QHD native. i think most of you are jaded young people, you fail to appreciate that the games you play on consoles are running on tech from almost a decade ago with max 512MB available. and while they don't look as good as the PC versions, they give them a good run for their money. it's amazing what they've been able to get out of those two old gals.