Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

The Windows 8 tutorial

16 posts in this topic

Posted

It just shows a tiny image of a window with an arrow and the words 'move your mouse to the corners'.

Seriously, this is it ?!! Unless I'm missing something, this has got to be a joke. No mention of the different items in the charms bar, Metro vs Desktop, the task switcher, new Start screen, how to close an app, dock an app, where the old functions are located in Win 8 etc etc etc.

I would have expected all the above in an interactive tutorial that guides users. How is this supposed to help anyone at all?
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I think that it ought to be a short tutorial, just like the one that they already implemented. It shows some basic concepts new to Windows 8 and users are expected
to learn further by themselves.
If it lasted too long, it would annoy users (it would annoy me, at least).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I agree. The included "tutorial" is remarkably lacking and will do little to help new users. People underestimate how difficult it is to use computers for the first time, particularly for the older generation. That said, most Windows users will have little trouble adapting. It will take a while to figure out where everything is but you don't really need a tutorial - the iPad doesn't have one and it's been a runaway success.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Obviously you're computing wrong. It's all your fault for not knowing how to use something, not Microsofts.

/s

Seriously though, the tutorial is a joke and I was surprised while watching it that it didn't show anything else. I was waiting for it to move on from the arrow in the top right thing and was shocked when that was it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

So a new user runs Win 8 for the first time and they are looking at the Start screen. How will they figure out how to go to the desktop? The 'tutorial' is an animated gif shown on 1st run, it is frankly a total afterthought.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Maybe they're preparing a video tutorial which won't come out until the actual retail release, something they could easily show on the first startup, then later if needed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Heh, the designers ruling Microsoft right now had little time to manage a tutorial for their "wonderful", "beautiful", "fantastic" app-cr*p Metro UI interface so they delegated the thing to the programmers. Which were so disgusted by the new direction taken by Windows 8 that let the users judge the OS quality just by looking at the first screens.

It's a feature, not a bug...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

[quote name='PsYcHoKiLLa' timestamp='1344458419' post='595073245']
Maybe they're preparing a video tutorial which won't come out until the actual retail release, something they could easily show on the first startup, then later if needed.
[/quote]

No. The RTM image is already being installed by OEM's.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

[size=5][font=courier new,courier,monospace]I have to agree, the 'one thing' tutorial is pretty lame. Especially considering the following:[/font][/size][list=1]
[*][size=5][font=courier new,courier,monospace]The text says "Move your mouse into any corner." But it shows a cursor [i][b]only[/b][/i] moving to the top right-hand corner over and over and over. Are we for real?[/font][/size]
[*][size=5][font=courier new,courier,monospace]No indication that in the bottom left-hand corner is where the Start screen also is, like where the Start button was before they decided to remove it. Really? I think removing the button is enough if they are bent on hiding any reference to something being down there. But seriously, c'mon.[/font][/size]
[*][size=5][font=courier new,courier,monospace]Well, "[i][b]any[/b][/i] corner" is somewhat of a mis-direction. If you have no Metro-style apps running, moving your mouse to the upper left-hand corner does nothing. At all.[/font][/size]
[/list]

[size=5][font=courier new,courier,monospace]But thanks for the short, marginally useless tutorial Microsoft! [/font][/size]

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I wouldn't call it a "tutorial." It quickly introduces the two new concepts that are core to the experience. Edge swipes (on touch devices only), and hot corners (if a mouse is present). Once you had that tidbit of knowledge, it's easy to figure out the rest (i.e. put your mouse in each corner to see what they do, swipe each edge to see what they do).

[quote name='Defcon' timestamp='1344458141' post='595073233']
So a new user runs Win 8 for the first time and they are looking at the Start screen. How will they figure out how to go to the desktop? The 'tutorial' is an animated gif shown on 1st run, it is frankly a total afterthought.
[/quote]

What do you mean "back" to the desktop? When you first log in there's no "back" to go to. You get to the desktop but clicking on a desktop app, or the Desktop tile. I don't think anyone will have trouble figuring that out.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

[quote name='Defcon' timestamp='1344459139' post='595073293']
No. The RTM image is already being installed by OEM's.
[/quote]

Yeah but they added a browser choice after launch of Windows 7 so they could easily add/release something after launch. Even some kind of tutorial tile on the start page which could point you to an online tutorial would be helpful. With such a big change in the UI they really should have some kind of help.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Neowin tutorial : Search if a thread on that topic already exists before creating a new topic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

[quote name='Brandon Live' timestamp='1344627006' post='595079223']
What do you mean "back" to the desktop? When you first log in there's no "back" to go to. You get to the desktop but clicking on a desktop app, or the Desktop tile. I don't think anyone will have trouble figuring that out.
[/quote]

Where did I say 'back' ? My original quote - "How will they figure out how to go to the desktop?". You might think its easy to figure out but have you actually seen someone new to Win 8 do this? The desktop is one tile among many others, its not easy at all. Its just a confusing mess to a new user who just want their familiar desktop. And if they click on any other tile, they are then locked into Metro with no hope of ever escaping. Or do you also call the close gesture and the left swipe taskbar 'easy to figure out' ?

I wish MS would actually do some studies instead of assuming this stuff is usable.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

[quote name='Defcon' timestamp='1344630371' post='595079453']


Where did I say 'back' ? My original quote - "How will they figure out how to go to the desktop?". You might think its easy to figure out but have you actually seen someone new to Win 8 do this? The desktop is one tile among many others, its not easy at all. Its just a confusing mess to a new user who just want their familiar desktop. And if they click on any other tile, they are then locked into Metro with no hope of ever escaping. Or do you also call the close gesture and the left swipe taskbar 'easy to figure out' ?

I wish MS would actually do some studies instead of assuming this stuff is usable.
[/quote]

Weird, I could swear your post said "back."

I don't know what you're talking about regarding getting "stuck" in an app. Putting the mouse in any corner will reveal a way to get to Start. If you're on a touch device, your device has a Start button and you have the charms.

Yes I have seen many people use Windows 8 for the first time. None have ever had any of the problems you describe. And we have done endless usability studies. None of these changes were made lightly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

well that's because you have everything on that one charm? though they could have showed how to get the the start menu from desktop going to the left corner of the screen. I mean you guys know how to use windows 7 right? usually the start button is on the bottom left hand corner.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I think its pretty simple to "read" things once you know that you need to go to the corners to activate different menus

For someone who has never used / seen Windows 8 before, not knowing that you have to move to the corners would leave them wondering wtf to do

As soon as you see that the different corners activate different things, its not exactly brain surgery to work out what to click on

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.