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#1 CGW-88

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 15:35

Main reason I'm doing this is because of johnporter29 and this well put comment

It has no value to anyone wanting to read up about Windows 8


So lets have one! :)

I have been contemplating this and I'm not sure how it will go but we will have to wait and see. Fingers crossed.

Points of discussion for the thread:

  • What do you like about Windows 8?
  • How did you find the transition between W7 and W8?
  • What specialist area are you(if any) using W8/ will use it for ie web design, software development etc. And how is that going?
  • Have you found any useful tips/tricks for W8?
  • Advice for people who like the look of W8 and have just started using it but are finding a few things difficult.
  • Any questions regarding W8 for the neowinians to answer for you?

Basically a big general help thread for people who LIKE W8 and WANT to use it, and POSITIVE comments.
Please no negative comments or arguments because this could potentially be useful to people who like W8.

This post can and will be updated with useful news links and basic help information about w8 if and when it becomes available.

Neowin tagged W8 news posts and a basic user guide. Seems pretty informative but I only skimmed through the first two pages. Will be updated with other members content or stuff I find when I'm back at home
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http://www.neowin.ne.../tags/windows_8

http://www.techradar...#articleContent




#2 MAkhdar

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 15:59

Well I guess I'll start :)

I work in the Medical field and I setup doctor offices so I am always purchasing the latest technology to increase productivity for physicians. With Windows 8 the physicians are going to be REALLY happy and so will I :). Recently I've been pushing ultrabooks to them and they love them and now with Windows 8 with its friendly interface, they will become more productive and will be ready to go quicker. They will defintely love the increased speed and because they heavily use IE, they will really enjoy the enhancements in IE 10. Also I have been pushing them to use Lenovo's Tablet PC's and they will definitely appreciate the more Touch friendly Windows 8.

#3 OP CGW-88

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 16:12

COOL! Thats a good start and sounds quite interesting tbh. I can see how it could be helpful to a situation like that.

Edit: First post updated with 1 extra link. Sorry for not adding more but I'm at work so just farting about on a break. :)

#4 theyarecomingforyou

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 16:23

1) I like the new visual theme, with the flat colours and square edges.
2) Storage Spaces is excellent, as it means I don't have to worry about hard drive failures.
3) The new Task Manager is a huge improvement.
4) Performance is better.
5) The new sound scheme is pleasant to listen to.
6) The new start screen is much better for me, as it makes full use of my 30" 2560x1600 monitor.

When I first fan Windows 8 the new interface and layout took a bit of getting used to. It felt like I was lost. But it only took a couple of days to get used to and a few weeks to really feel at home with it. Now it feels strange going back to Windows 7.

I do a lot of music recording and mixing, using a Saffire PRO 40 to recording multiple audio channels simultaneously - from keyboards, to vocals, to drums and guitar - into Cubase 6. So far Windows 8 is performing the same as Windows 7, which is a really good start as usually each new operating system has a huge impact upon performance and introduces compatibility issues (that was the case with both Vista and Win7).

#5 johnporter29

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 16:24

@CW-88: Thanks and I guess I better contribute something ;) I really do hope that this can stay positive and not develop into a free for all about the dislikes.

I personally found the transition from Windows 7 to Windows 8 fairly easy to be honest. The start screen used as the start menu and 95% of the time I found myself in the desktop environment as that is obviously what I am used to. I'm not against the new UI at all and I'm sure once more Applications are released that I find useful then I may start to use the "Metro" UI more and more, but for now it's limited. My workflow hasn't changed either and productivity is still the same as it was in Windows 7.

I will be using it general day to day computing, small bit of web design and developing in C#

To anyone who likes it but finding it hard to find their way round it, keep going, come onto this thread and I'm sure some will be around to help you. It really isn't that much harder to use than Windows 7 was. Although it was developed with touch in mind, it can be used quite well with a mouse and keyboard.

As to tips and tricks, I have none that's already been posted on the other threads.

#6 OP CGW-88

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 16:28

This is exactly what I was hoping for, user experiences. Thanks guys for a good start.

And yeah johnporter29 I hope it stays positive as well.

#7 efjay

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 16:38

W8 tablets are likely to come with small storage to minimise cost, using external storage could help those looking for more storage by creating vhd's (for programs that wont install to SD cards). This program allows you to create vhd's that mount at startup so you dont have to go to disk management all the time. http://www.jmedved.com/vhdattach/. Been using it on the RP on my Acer W500 and it works fine, hasnt missed a startup yet.

#8 yeoo_andy_ni

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 19:10

Don't really have anything to say yet apart from I love the new interface.
First time I used it was on a laptop, and hated the interface (and I was used to the tiles due to owning a WP7 device). But once it got to CP and I installed it on a PC that is older (P4 630, 2GB RAM, 80GB, Radeon X600) it absolutely flew along even on a system of that age. Very impressive.
Installed it on my new build (i5, 8GB RAM, SSD) and it boots in 20 seconds from pressing the power button and shuts down in 4. Performance is absoluely exceptional.
Love it.

#9 zhangm

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:28

I'm only on CP at the moment, but I do like the concept of Live tiles as a step or several beyond static icons. The inclusion of a native PDF reader is great - I've concluded that Adobe's dev team for Reader is full of retarded people, and it is nice to have a PDF reader that simply and directly reads PDFs. Built-in apps are all very simple but they get the job done.

The clock on the lockscreen is a very welcome addition, and spellchecking will...probably not help stupid people be smarter...

Speed and performance is a pleasant surprise, as well as the ability to handle a wide range of peripherals OOTB. The heavier range of keyboard shortcuts is also quite welcome, though I think people not used to interacting via said shortcuts will have a hard time discovering them.

#10 Dot Matrix

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:46

I found out yesterday, that the spacebar can trigger a right click on the Metro tiles on the Start Screen. Never knew that before.

#11 Subhadip

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 05:24

  • What do you like about Windows 8?
- Overall refinement - looking at just the Desktop, it seems like a near-perfect evolution to Windows 7
- Performance (impact over Windows 7 is greater than Windows 7 was over Vista SP1) and resource usage (much more efficient on RAM usage, greater battery life, etc)
- Visual Enhancements to Desktop
- Multi-monitor on Desktop
- Storage Spaces and File History, new Task Manager,
- New Start Screen, Search, all great for use with Desktop
- New keyboard shortcuts
- Over and above all of that, an awesome new WinRT environment. I could write an entire post on that.
  • How did you find the transition between W7 and W8?
The first taste was sour. Like fine wine, though, Metro grows on you. Unlike fine wine, it grows rather quickly. Within 2-3 days, I was comfortable, and within a month I actively preferred Metro to Desktop.

Compatibility with Windows 7 apps is really solid, and whatever is not should be fixed by GA.
  • What specialist area are you(if any) using W8/ will use it for ie web design, software development etc. And how is that going?
- Film post-production. Multi-monitor enhancements. Not too much of a difference as I was using Ultramon before, but having it built in is very useful, and seems like a faster and more implementation too.
- Performance is way up, really surprising.
- Metro Search makes finding files much easier.
- New keyboard shortcuts make a lot of things faster.
- As of now, all my software is on Desktop, but I see great potential for WinRT ports in the future.
  • Have you found any useful tips/tricks for W8?
- Using a mouse, the charms / task switcher can be activated in a single broard sweeping motion, rather than going to the corner and then up/down.
- Try semantic zoom on every app. This is what makes Metro work, the ability to have an information dense view and a comfortable consumption one. Best of both worlds. As of now, few apps support it well, but when they do, it is very useful indeed.
- Trackpads work great with W8, provided it is supported. I use a Logitech one.
  • Advice for people who like the look of W8 and have just started using it but are finding a few things difficult.
- Stick with it. It needs some getting used to. Even if you don't like Metro, the Desktop improvements alone make it more of an upgrade from Windows 7 than W7 was from Vista SP1. Use Metro simply as a Start Menu replacement.

I know this is a positive only thread, but I do have an issue with Windows 8. This is definitely Windows Next 1.0, and as such, it does not seem finished, for practical reasons of time-to-market. That only makes me more excited for the future though. I fully expect Windows 8 to have a very mixed reaction, with nearly everyone jumping on board by Windows 9.

#12 Nazmus Shakib Khandaker

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 08:08

I love the new theme and the final polish (in RTM). Also, in the final version of Windows 8, you can see how much space each metro style apps take, which is a big help!

I also love the fact that Metro style apps are made from a blank canvas. This allows developers to be creative and make their app look unique and different. Most Win32 apps are lazy in the fact that they are colorless and use the same look and eel as all other Windows application.

#13 OP CGW-88

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 08:44

Awesome! :)

I realised after I was last on yesterday I didnt share my views.

I went into Windows 8 with an open mind as I wanted any possible opinion to be solely based on my own findings. And my opinion is that W8 is great!
I love the metro side of it, think its so innovative and easy to use, I mean obviously it took a bit of getting used too but because I wanted too learn I stuck at it!
Since getting used to the new layout I think it is really easy to use, I'm moving about in metro as quickly as I normally do in W7 so in terms of productivity or easyness of use W8 gets a massive 10/10 from me. As I said though, if you like the look of and want to use w8 but have a little trouble at the beginning, stick at it as it gets easy very quick.

I use my computer for general day to day use, some gaming and some c# dev and wpf.

I don't really have much else to say that hasn't already been mentioned by other members unfortunately but I am going to try and make a list of useful tips that people have mentioned to put in the thread.

I actually messaged Neobond yesterday to see about starting this thread and he said it will probably pick up when the RTM is released over technet/msdn so we might see this being used more and more. :)

#14 reaper1576

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 10:45

Well all i can say is this is what ive experianced with windows 8. ive had alot of friends freaking out about windows 8 not being able to install applications that aint from the store i will say there is alot of false and negative info going around and people like Gabe (steam) & notch crying over it is silly

1. Greatly improved boot times
2. I find the whole system is faster and more responsive than windows 7 SP1 64bit
3. Love the new taskmanager has some realy nice features and i find it more easy to read alot less clutter compared to the one we all known and loved for years
4. UI it different its quite refreshing than the standard UI we have had since win 95
5. Installation was very fast simple with little issue
6. Driver compatibiliy seems very good i would love for nvidia to update the nforce drives and cant wait to see the offical xonar drivers for win8 but the win 7 version all work perfectly
7. All the games i play worked apart from games that use GFWL software hope there is a fix for this as i own a couple of GFWL games steam worked perfectly.
8. felt little use for a 3rd party defrag.

#15 Condere

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 10:50

Win8ToGo drive installations, bring your computer with you.

Also, a bunch of other stuff that the others mentioned such as File History, new Task Manager.