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#46 Arceles

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 23:19

It's a change in mentality - Windows 8 doesn't want you to think about the files but about what they contain. Want to see photos? Look at them - the ones on your computer, on Facebook, on SkyDrive, they're all there. Same thing with documents, videos, contacts... When was the last time you saw a normal person open Explorer to do something else than working with their personal files?


This more or less sounds like the apocalypse to me...


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Posted 14 August 2012 - 02:05

It's a change in mentality - Windows 8 doesn't want you to think about the files but about what they contain. Want to see photos? Look at them - the ones on your computer, on Facebook, on SkyDrive, they're all there. Same thing with documents, videos, contacts...
When was the last time you saw a normal person open Explorer to do something else than working with their personal files?


For file oriented people, it is quite a change to be corralled into opening the file from the app instead of vice versa via file associations. What you had once prized in your good users is now turned into a bad habit.

At the same time they are expected to mentally sort their data, somehow, that isn't cloud safe or proper (privacy concerns/spiders)

#48 +TruckWEB

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 09:20

Works the same way as on the iPad and sometime, it bugs me not to have a file manager....

I'm not sure I want to let the OS take care of my files for me...

#49 Aethec

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 09:31

Then open the Desktop and you've got Windows Explorer - it's that simple.

#50 Dashel

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 15:29

Opening the Desktop doesn't address the Metro (mobile) conception of apps over files Aethec.

#51 Aethec

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:46

So...handling files the Metro way is bad because you have no control, and handling files the "traditional" way is bad because it's not Metro. :rofl:

#52 Dashel

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 15:03

I'm not sure how I can state it any clearer. Desktop Explorer is a superior solution, Metro has little to no solution. A user created file browser has no chance next to Explorer, yet they can't develop one for Metro that needs it. You didn't really address my core point though (RE file oriented vs app).

#53 Aethec

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 16:54

I'm not sure how I can state it any clearer. Desktop Explorer is a superior solution, Metro has little to no solution. A user created file browser has no chance next to Explorer, yet they can't develop one for Metro that needs it. You didn't really address my core point though (RE file oriented vs app).

Look at it from normal users' point of view, not from a developper's. People care about their documents - photos, videos, letters, spreadsheets, whatever.
Most people don't care about the fact these documents are in C:\Users\XXX\Documents - they just want them to be on their computer. Same with contacts - who care they're files? They're contacts and they represent people. The "Modern" interface abstracts the notion of a physical file which is on your hard drive - they're just files stored somewhere. Conveniently, the ones you put in your SkyDrive are accessible everywhere.
You think the desktop explorer is a superior solution because you care about where your files are, and you sometimes want to see files that are not "yours". So do I. But that doesn't make it a superior solution, just a solution adapted for power users.

Yes, that will change people's habits. But that's the point of Windows 8.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 18:46

That still doesn't really address my points, you already stated as much. 1) 'Good' users have been taught to use file associations (so they do have a conception of 'where' their data is and not rely on the App to 'manage' their data (I dunno, my documents are in Word is a rally cry for data loss everywhere). 2) 'Cloud' storage presents a unique new problem because, due to MS ridiculous TOS, you have to then mentally 'sort' your data based on content - which is counter to what they want to achieve of not thinking about locations.

#55 Aethec

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 10:17

1) Yes, and now they'll have to change that. Windows 8's "Modern" UI was made with change in mind.
2) What ToS are you talking about?

#56 etacarinae

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 12:59

Thanks for comments. It is my first try of GUI for an OS.
For testing I did another screen with File Explorer Libraries:



Probably it is still too heavy weighted with the purple :-)


I really like what you've done. You're definitely an accomplished UI designer.

Some gripes:
  • The favourites icon at the top left of the explorer navigation pane is a little too large and shifted a few too many pixels to the right.
  • The network icon on the left hand navigation pane is not as distinct as Microsoft's own pitchfork overlaid on a monitor. I'd suggest mimicking their icon but with your monochromatic theme.
Overall it's really nice, but I'm not a fan of monochromatic themes. I like textures and gradients (yes, I prefer aero and do not discern it as cheesy as the Windows team have decidedly panned it). Plus from a UI aesthetic the texture and gradients allow for a better distinction between UI elements as is evident in the 'metro' ribbon vs the 'aero' ribbon.

#57 OP honolulu110

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 18:32

Thanks for replies and interesting arguments pro and contra metro concepts.
Last week I was in holidays without computer, sorry for my late reply.

The next days I'll post some new screens with further updates.

#58 OP honolulu110

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:45

Current concept Office route. I decided to remove as many lines as possible.
Next step is to try out how other content displays work.

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#59 LAMj

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:04

^kudos, keep 'em coming. Maybe Microsoft will take notice!

#60 George P

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 20:11

Honestly, it's the old icons in explorer that mess things up. The ribbon itself isn't so much of a problem, you can minimize it and it should be minimized by default iirc. If they ever get around to changing the whole icon set and tweaking the ribbon a bit more then it'll be good IMO. I expect we're in store for the Office 2013 UI in the end though, but they'll release it in Office first then move it over to Windows. I think the same can be said for the overall window borders etc, switching to the Office 2013 style ones probably.

Out of all the concepts the Office Style one is the one I like the best. The Zune one is interesting but I just don't see that level of change coming. Designers love to go crazy with mockups and then the coders and focus group testers get their hands on it and it never turns out how it was originally drawn up. This is the same for most things really.



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