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[Ryoken]

Dan~, on 20 August 2012 - 07:28, said:

If it was suicide then I hope it hurt. I have no sympathy for suicidal people, selfless people!

What the **** is wrong with you?

Hoping someone suffers..

[Dan~]

Opps yes I did mean selfish!

Of course it's selfish, he's left behind a wife and two children. Think how they will feel now, he's not thought about their trauma, ie selfish.

He can get help or could of.

Fair enough if your severly paralised, but he wasn't.

If your view is different then great, but thats my view.

[Ryoken]

For all you know he discussed it with his wife and kids, and this was just the way he chose to go when he felt the time was right..

Not the way I'd chose, mind you, but I don't falt him for it.

Additionally not everyone can cope, it's something to pity, yes, but to wish for him to suffer just because he couldn't emotionally [ or perhaps physically ] deal with it is just harsh.

[Dan~]

For all you kow he DIDN'T discuss it with his wife and kids, and he didn't as he left a note.

Why would he leave a note if he'd discussed it...

Any who said anything about suffering I said "I hope it hurt" not "I hope he suffered"

All his loved ones will now be suffering though...

[nik louch]

Before you judge anyone who has committed suicide, take a walk in the mindset that puts you in such a place!

[+Chicane-UK]

Quite. If you've never experienced depression then you simply cannot paint it as black and white, and say they're selfish.

Very sad news - I feel so sorry for anyone that feels things have gone that bad in their life that suicide is the only option

[Dan~]

Thats just the excellent thing, you've both shot yourself in the foot about "be in the depression"

I'm likely to know more about it than yourselfs

Thats why I know suicide/suicidal thoughts its a VERY selfish thing.

I'm hoping this will never happen, but if it's yourself, friend, mother, father etc you'll understand it's very selfish.

[Haggis]

I agree with Dan in some parts

I think Suicide is a very selfish thing to do, think how your wife and kids would feel knowing that you were that depressed that you thought the only thing you could do was kill yourself

but i do understand also the way that someone could feel like that

[briango]

Maybe it's a selfish thing for some, others it might not be. Maybe he didn't want his family see him go through it. Ever have a family member die slowly of a terminal cancer?

[nik louch]

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I'm likely to know more about it than yourselfs

I very VERY much doubt that! For the record, it CAN be selfish, but within other situations can be SELFLESS!

Moreover, I never mentioned depression, and don't suggest I shot myself in the foot, because you just put your foot right in your mouth!

[Haggis]

briango, on 20 August 2012 - 08:11, said:

Maybe it's a selfish thing for some, others it might not be. Maybe he didn't want his family see him go through it. Ever have a family member die slowly of a terminal cancer?

Ever have a family member kill thereself and absolutely hate yourself because they felt like suicide was a better answer than coming to talk to you about it?

[nik louch]

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Ever have a family member kill thereself and absolutely hate yourself because they felt like suicide was a better answer than coming to talk to you about it?

Yup, and I wholly understand their mindset and moreover support their decision.

[TRC]

Sorry to hear this. Depression is a terrible thing, and a person who has it may seem perfectly fine. Smiling and happy in public, but constantly suffering inside. I know it seems selfish and I don't condone it at all, but a person who has a disorder often doesn't think rationally or about how it will effect others, or they may even wrongly believe their friends would be better off without them. The saddest thing is that depression can often be successfully treated if the person will just ask for help. Unfortunately they often hide their problem even from their closest family members.

[briango]

Haggis, on 20 August 2012 - 08:25, said:

Ever have a family member kill thereself and absolutely hate yourself because they felt like suicide was a better answer than coming to talk to you about it?

I've had a family member commit suicide. He wanted to kill himself, not be talked out of it.

Catweazle is 100 % correct.

[+Vice]

Dan~, on 20 August 2012 - 07:28, said:

If it was suicide then I hope it hurt. I have no sympathy for suicidal people, selfless people!

Neowin at its finest.