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[Ice_Blue]

...and in the few seconds we've been here, we've managed to not only totally eff up the planet, but divide ourselves into multiple warring camps, forever at each other throats over pure greed and ideology.

How sad.

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[+articuno1au]

I call rubbish at having ****ed up the planet.

Other than that, proceed unmolested sir.

[Ice_Blue]

Error in thread title. Should be "scaled".

[Andrew Lyle]

That's pretty cool

I noticed there's no mention of God... *hides*

[+articuno1au]

Andrew Lyle, on 21 August 2012 - 14:56, said:

That's pretty cool

I noticed there's no mention of God... *hides*

/slap

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. This thread was going to be crazy free -_-

[Ice_Blue]

articuno1au, on 21 August 2012 - 14:57, said:

/slap

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. This thread was going to be crazy free -_-

Hopefully.

[+mulligan2k]

Ice_Blue, on 21 August 2012 - 14:46, said:

...and in the few seconds we've been here, we've managed to not only totally eff up the planet, but divide ourselves into multiple warring camps, forever at each other throats over pure greed and ideology.

How sad.

unlike the dinosaurs and all other animals, who all just get along with each other...

[+articuno1au]

Yeah, but people would get ****ed off if I decided you looked tasty and tore your throat out so I could feast upon your blood.

They seem ok with it if I scream something religious before killing you though O.o

[+Xenosion]

We are animals all the same, the only difference is a more complex brain which could be our most beneficial or damaging quality. Time will tell.

[Ice_Blue]

mulligan2k, on 21 August 2012 - 16:43, said:

unlike the dinosaurs and all other animals, who all just get along with each other...

Unless you consider yourself (and humanity) to be at the intellectual, moral and technological level as the dinosaurs and all other animals.

[+Xenosion]

Ice_Blue, on 21 August 2012 - 17:55, said:

Unless you consider yourself (and humanity) to be at the intellectual, moral and technological level as the dinosaurs and all other animals.

We are still animals in every other way. Behavior, territory, tribes or herds, the basics are all there. As I said, we are the same but we are more "complex" which is not inherently good. We are not balanced. The more we segregate ourselves as higher beings, the more imbalanced we will be.

[Ice_Blue]

Xenosion, on 21 August 2012 - 18:03, said:

We are still animals in every other way. Behavior, territory, tribes or herds, the basics are all there. As I said, we are the same but we are more "complex" which is not inherently good. We are not balanced. The more we segregate ourselves as higher beings, the more imbalanced we will be.

I agree. This is why we need to use our intelligence and powers of reasoning to suppress the (latent) baser instincts, and for the advancement of the species as a whole. Internecine warfare, deforestation of our main sources of oxygen replenishment, wanton atmospheric and oceanic pollution may gain us momentary riches, but does not bode well for future generations.

[BajiRav]

Andrew Lyle, on 21 August 2012 - 14:56, said:

That's pretty cool

I noticed there's no mention of God... *hides*

I think you missed the 4am mark.

[+Xenosion]

Ice_Blue, on 21 August 2012 - 18:15, said:

I agree. This is why we need to use our intelligence and powers of reasoning to suppress the (latent) baser instincts, and for the advancement of the species as a whole. Internecine warfare, deforestation of our main sources of oxygen replenishment, wanton atmospheric and oceanic pollution may gain us momentary riches, but does not bode well for future generations.

At this time in our social evolution we are not nearly prepared to suppress our instincts completely. Everything we have and every way we think is linked back to these instincts. Survival of the fittest is a model that is seen the largest and smallest of scales in our society. The more we erode this model, the more we see devalued education, responsibility, work ethics, etc. The more we attempt to "diversify" the populace or even simply widen global interactions, the more tension we create. We simply aren't ready to move beyond these basics in an attempt to ascend to a new social level. I don't know if we ever will.

PS: It's estimated that 70% of Earth's oxygen is produced by phytoplankton on the oceans' surface.

[+Phouchg]

Human evolution plans are all nice and dandy... on paper. Why care of future generations I will not experience, feel, even know? I have to admit, I am moderately egocentric and I do not have the "heart" for everyone, not nearly, as it is, but much less for things that aren't there yet and have infinite number of threats other than me.
Have I not evolved? Perhaps, although I do think and with an intellectual capacity of greater than average. It seems that it is not enough.
Instead, I'd argue that persistent conflict is the defining trait of living, intelligent or otherwise.