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[center][size=6][b]Best Buy profit tanks 91%, stock tumbles to 9-year low[/b][/size][/center]

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Looks like Best Buy Co.

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I can't say I'm surprised. With Amazon, Newegg, Microcenter, etc etc, Best Buy just doesn't have competitive prices.
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I like the tag.

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Yep, I would have to say Amazon prime by itself would single handily click BB's ass.

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[quote name='Nerd Rage' timestamp='1345566646' post='595110285']
I can't say I'm surprised. With Amazon, Newegg, Microcenter, etc etc, Best Buy just doesn't have competitive prices.
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Best Buy closed all their stores in the UK recently. Not really missing them though as they made you feel like a criminal they had zip ties around every gadget on display almost exclusively right across the touch screens making them difficult to try and you would constantly be accosted by pushy sales people as you browsed around. I spent 30 minutes in a store looking at various products, mostly tablets and must have had 4 different employees ask me if I needed help. I'm sure if I needed help I'd ask someone they had employees everywhere they weren't hard to miss.

Just as I was walking out of the store another patron made a bit of a scene by saying loudly [i]"I'm sick of you people keep asking me if I need anything, I'm leaving"[/i] it was really that ridiculous that she felt the need to complain out loud and she did promptly leave the store.

In-fact every time I went to the store the employee to customer ratio was like 3 employees to 1 customer.

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My first game F22 Raptor 3 was from best buy ... and a 56x CD Rom ... good times, after being asked to pay 60$ to install I started doing things for myself ...

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[quote name='Nerd Rage' timestamp='1345566646' post='595110285']
I can't say I'm surprised. With Amazon, Newegg, Microcenter, etc etc, Best Buy just doesn't have competitive prices.
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Amazon and Newegg (and especially Amazon) are the biggies - being e-tailers, they don't charge sales tax; heck, they generally don't keep inventory (in most cases, they have a distributor, such as TechData or Ingram Micro, drop-ship).

MicroCenter nibbles at the edges (especially with closeouts, loss-leaders, etc.) - however, they aren't the e-tail force that Amazon is.

Everyone is looking for bargain prices on known-quality items - they may go to Best Buy (or another brick and mortar retailer) to browse, but then turn right around and buy on Amazon. Folks are thinking that it says bad things about Best Buy; actually, it says a lot of bad things about retail (or even about what we think about our governments at the local level) - why are we going to such trouble to deny local and state governments revenue? Wal-Mart (despite the grief they get) is practically the only retailer doing decently at the ordinary-Joe/Jane end. It's all about bargains - and not paying sales/consumption/VAT - legally telling our local and state governments to whistle.

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[quote name='Nerd Rage' timestamp='1345566646' post='595110285']
I can't say I'm surprised. With Amazon, Newegg, Microcenter, etc etc, Best Buy just doesn't have competitive prices.
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I love microcenter. Its like a TRUE electronics store, they have a huge selection to choose from, unlike bestbuy who would just have for example 1 type of HDD in 3 sizes. Microcenter has all different types, sizes, manufactures, OEM packaging, retail box, ect... They even have IDE. Also going along with their big internet like selection is the internet pricing, they have legitimate internet pricing at a retail store. The one thing I hate about buying online is waiting on the shipping, with microcenter I can get my product instantly, sure we have sales tax on it, but Ohio's sales tax is only like 6% so it ends up costing about the same as shipping anyways.

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Unfortunately, Best Buy's prices and employee apathy/ignorance are to blame for their woes. I have been to a handful of different Best Buy locations across 3 different states and not once did I ever come across a floor rep that knew what they were talking about. On top of that, their prices are usually just above Amazon or Newegg. And with free shipping, that difference is the key. I'll buy from where ever the best deal is, but Best Buy usually doesn't have the best deal out there.

I only go to Best Buy now a days to see a phone, tablet, TV, or whatever else in person before I buy it somewhere else.

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@I Am Reid: wow I had never heard of Microcenter before, I wish we had a few here in Nebraska

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It's a shift in how we buy our products that these companies aren't capitalizing on. It's so obvious on an elementary level that these enormous retail stores and staff are no competition for the ease of online retailers. These CEOs are clueless. I would say it doesn't matter, but it actually does. It is a shame that stores who would normally employ many people are based on aging business models. Further, that they are replaced with more "efficient" retailers that operate with less [people].

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Not really surprised. Everything in Best Buy is so overpriced.
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[quote name='Xilo' timestamp='1345569382' post='595110437']
Not really surprised. Everything in Best Buy is so overpriced.
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This. I dont have any allegiance to one paticular retailer. I go to whoever is going to give me the best price, on a rare occasion Best Buy has the best offer for a bluray I am looking for but that's about it. Every other item I look to purchase can be mailed to my house tax free from Amazon with usually a 20% (min.) cheaper price. I understand they have way more overhead than an e-tailer but they need to adapt to the business model or there is no way they can survive. I hate whenever I go there and see people bringing in their desktop to the Geeksquad to get repaired because I know they are going to get raked over the coals with the prices they charge.

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[quote name='spacer' timestamp='1345567868' post='595110367']
Unfortunately, Best Buy's prices and employee apathy/ignorance are to blame for their woes. I have been to a handful of different Best Buy locations across 3 different states and not once did I ever come across a floor rep that knew what they were talking about. On top of that, their prices are usually just above Amazon or Newegg. And with free shipping, that difference is the key. I'll buy from where ever the best deal is, but Best Buy usually doesn't have the best deal out there.

I only go to Best Buy now a days to see a phone, tablet, TV, or whatever else in person before I buy it somewhere else.
[/quote]^^^^This x infinity. Thats why I hardly go there now and only shop there when they have the lowest possible price and most of the time using the coupons instead of cash. Its really gone down hill and I do not expect them to recover till they get their act together. While I dont see it dying off completely like Circuit City its going to definitely go thru some restructuring.

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Best Buy, like many retailers don't get it, they need to match the pricing seen online and leverage the convenience they can offer that the online retailer can't (instant availability)...

They need to put smaller stores in urban areas and abandon the crappy big box format. They then need to make purchasing online or in-store seamless with perks like free ship to store and expedited shipping and checkout when buying in-store.

[quote name='jerzdawg' timestamp='1345569953' post='595110451']
This. I dont have any allegiance to one paticular retailer. I go to whoever is going to give me the best price, on a rare occasion Best Buy has the best offer for a bluray I am looking for but that's about it. Every other item I look to purchase can be mailed to my house tax free from Amazon with usually a 20% (min.) cheaper price. I understand they have way more overhead than an e-tailer but they need to adapt to the business model or there is no way they can survive. I hate whenever I go there and see people bringing in their desktop to the Geeksquad to get repaired because I know they are going to get raked over the coals with the prices they charge.
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They need to learn this lesson at Best Buy...

If they were to look smartly at Amazon they can see its vulnerability very well. Amazon is renting space to put shipping lockers for people to conveniently pick up their packages due to the ugly side of online ordering (needing to be home to get your package) and UPS is charging consumers for "convenient" delivery. The obvious way to press against Amazon is to drop the Big Box format and focus on a smaller store format that can stock the items that roll out the store quickly while giving customers who buy online a convenient place to pick up their packages and do returns.

Amazon is vulnerable, but the brick and mortar guys are too stupid to attack correctly.
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[quote]Best Buy, like many retailers don't get it, they need to match the pricing seen online and leverage the convenience they can offer that the online retailer can't (instant availability)...[/quote]

And easier return of the product when things get ugly.

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[quote name='LaP' timestamp='1345570784' post='595110487']
And easier return of the product when things get ugly.
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Exactly, by leveraging a smaller, more convenient, stores they could offer users the ability to return any item without having to deal with shipping costs or hassles. Basically, they need to leverage the best aspects of the Brick and Mortar world (instant gratification, ease of returns, etc.) with the best aspects of the online world (lower costs due to economies of scale).

Sadly, they just don't get it...

They will get it when Amazon starts building stores, but at that point it will be too late.

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it's just not a cheap place to go to. if it was, i'd go in a heart beat as it's very close to where i live.

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If Best Buy focused more on good customer service and less focus on insurance (which I can probably guess they don't call it insurance, even though it is). The fact that they're more expensive than the internet is not their biggest problem.

You are never going to see a high street store to be as cheap as the internet, for obvious reasons. But the fact that you get good service from staff and a simple returns and exchanges policy should make that extra cost justifiable.. which at the moment, isn't.

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Crash and burn indeed... Bye there Best Buy, time to join Circuit City. :)

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I go to Best Buy a lot.

It's the best place to get some hands-on with a gadget before actually buying it on Amazon :)

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I window shop for tv's at best buy. I like to see what the image looks like before I buy a tv

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Items never in stock, demo models usually malfunctioning, associates that won't leave you alone and constantly ask you for help. Performance Service Protection Plan uttered from their mouths every other sentence. Not knowledgeable in the product their demoing. It's a horrible, frustrating experience. Taking 6 hours to buy a car is a more enjoyable experience. It wasn't always like this, I would know, I worked there for a few years, but service and quality has gone considerably down.

I'll stick to online sites where all the relevant info is presented to you immediately, free shipping, typically cheaper and when you do actually need help, live chat solves most problems.

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[quote name='Nerd Rage' timestamp='1345566646' post='595110285']
I can't say I'm surprised. With Amazon, Newegg, Microcenter, etc etc, Best Buy just doesn't have competitive prices.
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That and poor customer service is doing them in.

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