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#1 vetCalum

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:22

Facebook is forcing its employees to use Android phones because its Android app is just awful

Facebook just updated its iPhone app. Great!

That's no consolation to its employees, who are increasingly getting nudged, cajoled, and even ordered to give up their iPhones for Android devices.

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Read more at Business Insider.


What do you all think of this? Is it ethical? Is it a good idea?




#2 Ambroos

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:30

Well it sort of makes sense, and it sort of doesn't. I can understand that they want the team working on the Android app to actually use Android phones. It's the only way to properly find out what's wrong with it (or rather to see that simply nothing is right). But I don't understand why people on unrelated teams should be forced to use a specific type of phone.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:31

I'm unsure about this. In fact, I think it's a load of old crap. I'm a designer leading the Android team on our product and while the Android app wasn't pushed as hard as the iOS one at first, because we had more iOS developers and a bigger platform of users, we have been pushing the new Android app hard in design and development and it's standing on it's own as a high quality product. And you know why? Because we're a responsible company of people who know that ANY low grade app in your lineup is bad.

It doesn't take employees being forced to use the app if it's bad to make them 'want' to make it better. Any design/development team worth anything will want to make it better by default. I suspect the reason for the Android app being less quality is that ... and I'd bet money on this ... I bet the Android team is smaller. And they have just as hard deadlines. Feature's and stability take time and if the team aren't afforded it, they can't do it. Hopefully they'll be given more time and more team members to bring it up to standard. It is a lower quality app, but in some ways it's actually nicer than the iOS one. It'd be nice if they worked with Google's Android Patterns and Guidelines some more and made it a more unique app that stands on it's own feet rather than tries to replicate the iOS app with a slight difference.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:31

Well, if it makes them fix this damn app then it's a very good idea.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:33

Finally! Good move Facebook. :)

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:34

Sounds like they need a better R&D department.

#7 Roger H.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:35

Just gonna post this, so good if true.

This is call Dogfood! Don't tell me it's so awesome till you can eat it yourself and not vomit everywhere!

Microsoft does this with all their stuff. Bing was/is running Windows 8 servers before they were final and also Microsoft did 30,000 installs of WIndows 8 on campus too while they were still testing it.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:46

They are just making the devs who write the Android app use an android device.

http://phandroid.com...-how-bad-it-is/

#9 Josh_LosAltosHills

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 19:50

I would think it would be easier to tell the people in charge of these things to do their job instead of (allegedly) making them use a phone they don't want.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 20:13

This is just standard eating your own dogfood. People can run in circles talking about this being a management problem, but that's shortsighted and betrays a lack of awareness in how development teams work.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 20:19

I agree with this. Maybe making them use the app will force them to fix it when they realize how bad it is. I don't have a mobile phone period, but I believe developers shouldn't make something they wouldn't use.

#12 thealexweb

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 20:19

Now that the iOS app has been overhauled, iPad messenger app support and a fresh from scratch Android app should be top priority.

#13 Roger H.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 20:36

Yeah, i'm thinking they'll be doing that for the big 2.0 release of the app. They've been stretching that 1.9.x forever now, figured it's time to go full 2.0 with a full rewrite as well.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 20:38

What do you all think of this? Is it ethical? Is it a good idea?


I think that's an amazing policy!

#15 Denis W.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 20:40

Now that the iOS app has been overhauled, iPad messenger app support and a fresh from scratch Android app should be top priority.


Haven't tried the Messenger app on my iPad yet, but given they refreshed the Facebook app with the same code as the Messenger app, wouldn't an iPad messenger app be kind of redundant?

On topic, good policy (Y) but if they're Android developers, I'd wager they were Android users to begin with. Unless of course, they're similar to the Mac vs. PC thing, where Mac users generally use Windows at work and come home to their Macs.