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[yo popcaan]

Isn't the story of Jesus told in the bible, which is a religious book itself?

[THolman]

You mean he believes that Jesus was a historical person (along with most mainstream historians), or that he actively follows a Christian lifestyle? In the later case, yeah, I've seen Christians who eschew being labeled as 'religious.'

[KingCracker]

Go down to Mexico you'll find a few jesus's

[yo popcaan]

THolman, on 27 August 2012 - 21:04, said:

You mean he believes that Jesus was a historical person (along with most mainstream historians), or that he actively follows a Christian lifestyle? In the later case, yeah, I've seen Christians who eschew being labeled as 'religious.'

There is other evidence of Jesus's existence during the biblical period?

[pwgarner]

It could be his upbringing because for some people you have to be exact in your actions while for others faith is simply believing.

[Jason Stillion]

Or the basis of Martin Luther about the church, which caused the reformation.
Along the lines you have a personal relationship, and the church is not necessary.

What happened with the reformation, is a the time, people believed in the divine right of kings,
Others used this to try and topple the divine right of kings. Which caused a lot of strife.
In essence he had an idea that sparked others to act in way he may of never thought / intended.

This is a very abridged summary.

[nominak]

yo popcaan, on 27 August 2012 - 21:06, said:

There is other evidence of Jesus's existence during the biblical period?

There's nothing to say that a man named Jesus didn't do good deeds thousands of years ago.

[TheReasonIFailed]

Here's a shocker for you:

I believe that Jesus Christ existed, he was a minister and that he was crucified. But I don't believe that he was the able to cure the blind, walk on water or any of those things.

[a.mcdear]

You can believe in Jesus without needing to be "religious". Catholicism for example, contains a lot more than just simply believing in Jesus, and some people don't want to take part in all the other stuff.

[Jason Stillion]

yo popcaan, on 27 August 2012 - 21:02, said:

Isn't the story of Jesus told in the bible, which is a religious book itself?

The bible is used in multiple denominations of Christianity
Too many to count - http://en.wikipedia....n_denominations
With some having major differences between them.

[Tom]

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Edited by Calum, 27 August 2012 - 21:54.
Added a warning message about the language.

[Shadrack]

Jesus taught and lead a life of good deeds, humility, compassion for sinners (prostitutes and corrupt tax collectors), and helping the poor. The Christians I know do not even have an agenda consistent with Jesus' teachings. I don't consider the work of Christians the same as the work of Jesus Christ. Christians want to gloss over the life of Jesus and just focus on their interpretation of the death and resurrection.

So, I see where he is coming from and understand the point of view of being Pro-Jesus and Anti-Religion.

[Nothing Here]

Shadrack, on 27 August 2012 - 21:19, said:

Jesus taught and lead a life of good deeds, humility, compassion for sinners (prostitutes and corrupt tax collectors), and helping the poor. The Christians I know do not even have an agenda consistent with Jesus' teachings. I don't consider the work of Christians the same as the work of Jesus Christ. Christians want to gloss over the life of Jesus and just focus on their interpretation of the death and resurrection.

So, I see where he is coming from and understand the point of view of being Pro-Jesus and Anti-Religion.

This is the main reason I don't go to church. I don't want to sit there and hear someone's interpretation that I don't agree with.

[xpablo]

Jesus is a proven historical person. So there is no question that he existed and was crucified, but was he the son of God?
being raised a catholic , but i'm not religious since my teens, I will accept the fact that Jesus existed, but I don't worship him
or god, some people like to believe Jesus is god and all that stuff I won;t get into.

Too me Jesus was just an evangelist preacher, with many followers.

[yo popcaan]

But how come all of you are explaining what 1 guy said without having actual proof that he said it? Those who wrote the bible didn't even have direct contact with Jesus. If you agree with those quotes it's one thing but in an age where proof is so important why do people tend to overlook it when it comes to religion/religious figures?