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[+remixedcat]

tiagosilva29, on 16 September 2012 - 11:18, said:

It is illegal/finable/detainable if you're publicly intoxicated in some states, therefore the concept of a designated driver is useless in those states. Even if you are on a private vehicle, you had to access it via public space, and note that if you are driving this person, you are driving this person on a public road.

what states?

[HawkMan]

tiagosilva29, on 16 September 2012 - 11:18, said:

It is illegal/finable/detainable if you're publicly intoxicated in some states, therefore the concept of a designated driver is useless in those states. Even if you are on a private vehicle, you had to access it via public space, and note that if you are driving this person, you are driving this person on a public road.

I don't think you understand the public intoxication laws.

[tiagosilva29]

remixedcat, on 16 September 2012 - 11:52, said:

what states?

Out of memory, Californa and Indiana. In Indiana it's a class B felony. If the person is under 21, the driver gets charged too. If the person has marijuana, the driver gets one other charge (class D). Otherwise, all good for the driver. I don't know if the law was changed in the meanwhile.

In Indiana, if I recall correctly, recently(?) happened what I told you about. Found it.

HawkMan said:

I don't think you understand the public intoxication laws.

O rly?

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

It's like public smoking. It doesn't mean you can't smoke while walking dow the street, there are public areas where you can't smoke like bus stops etc.

[Anaron]

tiagosilva29, on 16 September 2012 - 11:18, said:

It is illegal/finable/detainable if you're publicly intoxicated in some states, therefore the concept of a designated driver is useless in those states. Even if you are on a private vehicle, you had to access it via public space, and note that if you are driving this person, you are driving this person on a public road.

I think it varies from state to state just as it varies from province to province in Canada. In the province that I live in (Ontario), you won't be issued a ticket or arrested unless: A) You pose a threat to the people around you. B) You disturb the public by screaming, singing loudly, swearing, etc. C) You lose consciousness in a public place.

Also, it's highly unlikely to be stopped between a designated driver's car or taxicab and a bar/restaurant. I know because I've had a couple of police officers joke around with me about how boring it is to be a designated driver. The same officers also wished my friends a fun night (within the limits of the law, of course). I've also seen police officers walk by people at night that are clearly intoxicated in Toronto's entertainment district (but not intoxicated enough to scream or pose a threat to those around them).

So yes, you're right about it being illegal to be publicly intoxicated. However, I believe it varies from place to place (even within a city). For example, I wouldn't be surprised if someone was arrested for public intoxication in a quiet uptown neighbourhood as opposed to a downtown entertainment district. In places like that, it's unexpected for people to be publicly intoxicated. And in places like Toronto's entertainment district, it's expected for people to be publicly intoxicated during the night.

In my opinion, the law usually applies to people that haven't made any arrangements or plans to get home safely.

[HawkMan]

I believe hthe law is also overly intoxicated, or similar wording.

Disorderly conduct, technically I think.

[tiagosilva29]

I don't agree with your opinion, Anaron. The only exception I could see on being publicly intoxicated is on medical grounds. Examples: me drinking at home, tripping on the cat's tail and <BAM> broke my leg. Medics/Firefighters take me out of the house (where some no-donut police agent could fine/arrest me). At that point I'm under medical care, the responsability of my wellbeing is extented over the medical professionals.

Having lived almost all my of life near "entertainment districts" and dealing with intoxicated people... there is a thin, thin line. And they cross it too many times.

HawkMan, on 16 September 2012 - 12:19, said:

I believe hthe law is also overly intoxicated, or similar wording.

Disorderly conduct, technically I think.

In some states. In others there is a quite open interpretation (left to the police agent). Heck, in some you can't even have a bottle of booze open, or even showing it.

[HawkMan]

You're confusing different laws. You can be intoxicated in public, as long as you are not disorderly. You are however never(as far as I'm aware, anywhere) allowed to carry around opened alcohol containers.

[tiagosilva29]

HawkMan said:

You can be intoxicated in public, as long as you are not disorderly.

No, you could not. Some states are stricter than others. I'm ninja editing this post, hoping everyone sees it. The law changed this Summer in Indiana.

Only California and Iowa left?

[+Xenosion]

Anaron, on 16 September 2012 - 08:45, said:

It matters if people assume the wrong thing. We don't know if the other passengers were intoxicated too. If they were, then their judgment was impaired. Are they idiots for being in a vulnerable state of mind?

Yes. Alcohol is not a toy and when a person decides to partake in the drinking of it, they damn well better know how much they can drink before becoming a reckless, harmful individual to people around them.

[andrewbares]

leesmithg, on 16 September 2012 - 11:25, said:

This is why you do not use a cell phone for communication whist driving and also have excess blood to alcohol ration.

S/he got what they deserved, I hope no innocent person got hurt.

*sigh*..... you're about as bright as you think the rapper is.

[drazgoosh]

What do you want for desert? #ROLO
Sitting here by myself. #SOLO
Wearing that Ralph Lauren. #POLO
Police are after me. #BOLO

[+Yorak]

Honestly, people like this ask for their own death. The only reason I care is because other innocent people were killed. This moron should have just gone by himself and I would not give a single ****.

[HawkMan]

Yorak, on 16 September 2012 - 18:46, said:

Honestly, people like this ask for their own death. The only reason I care is because other innocent people were killed. This moron should have just gone by himself and I would not give a single ****.

People like this what?

[Luis Mazza]

muggerfugger, on 14 September 2012 - 16:51, said:

Darwin likes this.

HawkMan, on 16 September 2012 - 19:42, said:

People like this what?

Drunk idiots, irritating rappers and ignorants?