WP7 user review on Android 2.3

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I only play around with the Android for few minutes at a time but never use it as my main phone until the last few days. I needed to send my Nokia Lumia 710 to Nokia Repair to fix the jack input and will not get it back until 10 days from now. I was going to get a flip phone until I get my Nokia Lumia 710 back but really needed the podcast, music, internet, email and others, so I decided to get the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4G from Walmart so I can return it when I get my phone back. The Exhibit was pretty slow for a 1GZ processor but will not count that against Google Android just because its a prepay phone even though my Lumia 710 is a prepay phone too. Out of the gate, I needed to update the phone software and apps which was pretty quick. I do have Google Play Music which was nice but was really slow to use when stream music from Google Servers. Email was a pain because you can't zoom out and see the whole HTML email. I'm a big podcast person and the Android does not have a Podcast app which I needed to find on from the Store. I needed to do a google search on best podcast for Android and BeyondPod was most of the top list. I found it hard to use and too many options when I just want to find, add, download, listen and delete which the Windows Phone does a really good job with. Added contact numbers from my Google Gmail account does not add all and I needed to add some which Windows Phone does a good job with. Texting is not too great because it does not autocorrent and I'm guessing I have to download an app or change a setting.

My over all view of Android 2.3 is that it feels like Linux with an App Store. It may someone that I needed it to do but you need to change a setting or get an App to do it. It's an OS that I don't see people would use if it didn't have the Google name behind it. This is not a well thought out mobile OS like the iOS and WP. Feels like I'm in the early 00s and WP and iOS is just a better OS in user interface, friendly using and easy learning curve. I don't see myself change to an Android anytime soon.

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That phone was the top of the line for prepay phones for T-Mobile at Walmart. $180 for that and $130 for an other Samsung that has a slower processor and smaller screen. I knew I was going to return it because I have 30 days for phones at Walmart and ask for the most expensive one they have it Samsung Galaxy exhibit 4G was it.

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Bought a phone to use and then return (for a refund I presume) after you get your own phone back - that's a little dishonest isn't it?

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Bought a phone to use and then return (for a refund I presume) after you get your own phone back - that's a little dishonest isn't it?

Nope, because they have a return policy that I follow. It's not my fault that I'm playing by their rules.

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Flamebait much? First off you're comparing two deprecated OS's, then you complain about the fact that Google allows you to choose which podcast app you use, rather than just bundling an (I assume) un-removable one. Next you complain about the fact that you had a bandwidth issue and blame it on Android. Then you complain about the lack of autocomplete, which is a flat out lie.

Finally, what the hell makes Android anything like "Linux with an app store"? If you had to hack around with some text files, or run stuff from the command prompt regularly, then I might be inclined to agree with you, but none of that is required, Android isn't some hardcore OS, and the Google name does little for it. My parents both own Androids (Galaxy Ace's to be precise) and they don't even have gmail accounts other than to download apps (which kind of sucks IMO, but anyway).

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Nope, because they have a return policy that I follow. It's not my fault that I'm playing by their rules.

Abusing them maybe, playing by them no. I don't really care how you justify it, refund rules are not there to allow you to borrow a phone for free.

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Flamebait much? First off you're comparing two deprecated OS's, then you complain about the fact that Google allows you to choose which podcast app you use, rather than just bundling an (I assume) un-removable one. Next you complain about the fact that you had a bandwidth issue and blame it on Android. Then you complain about the lack of autocomplete, which is a flat out lie.

Finally, what the hell makes Android anything like "Linux with an app store"? If you had to hack around with some text files, or run stuff from the command prompt regularly, then I might be inclined to agree with you, but none of that is required, Android isn't some hardcore OS, and the Google name does little for it. My parents both own Androids (Galaxy Ace's to be precise) and they don't even have gmail accounts other than to download apps (which kind of sucks IMO, but anyway).

WP7 allow you to use an other podcast app but the one Microsoft made is so much better than anyone else. Well, auto complete aka auto-spell check seem not to show up on my phone when I type. Android is using the Linux kernel. So yes my Linux comment is a valid point. So if I don't like Android, then I'm flamebaiter? Without Google, Android would not be the second popular mobile OS.

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WP7 allow you to use an other podcast app but the one Microsoft made is so much better than anyone else.

I guess this is just a difference of opinion, but I prefer my OS to keep built-in apps to a minimum, since I prefer to pick my own, rather than have the OS include one that I might end up ignoring instead.

Well, auto complete aka auto-spell check seem not to show up on my phone when I type.

That is an issue with the phone, not with the OS. Maybe Samsung did something to disable autocomplete (although I doubt it), but to say that Android doesn't have autocomplete, when it has had it since at least 2009, is flamebait because it's not true.

Android is using the Linux kernel. So yes my Linux comment is a valid point.

Yeah, but that's where the similarity ends. The kernel (aside perhaps from performance) has no impact on the overall usability of the OS. Everything built on top of the kernel is completely separate from GNU/Linux (which I assume you're referring to), so how could Android possibly be like "Linux with an App store"? It'd be like me saying "Yeah this Ferrari just feels like a Renault with in-built traction control" because they both have internal combustion engines.

So if I don't like Android, then I'm flamebaiter?

Not at all, there are plenty of people that dislike Android, although granted I'm not one of them, and you're more than entitled to your opinion. But you started a thread ranging from inappropriate analogies to lies, and that's what makes it flamebait. You make the association to Linux simply because you read that Android is based on the Linux kernel, and you basically started a thread in the Android forum dumping all over Android because you spent a week with a low-end device while your Windows phone was in the shop being repaired. Doesn't exactly make for fair, unbiased reporting.

Without Google, Android would not be the second popular mobile OS.

There's no way you could possibly know that, and every reason why that statement could be false (in fact it is false given that Android is the #1 smartphone OS). Android existed before Google bought it, and, had Google not bought it, Android would probably have been appealing to the upcoming smartphone market looking to compete with the iPhone regardless, especially since the manufacturers own OS's were failing epicly (aside, funnily, from Nokia), and Windows Phone 7 was years away.

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WP7 allow you to use an other podcast app but the one Microsoft made is so much better than anyone else. Well, auto complete aka auto-spell check seem not to show up on my phone when I type. Android is using the Linux kernel. So yes my Linux comment is a valid point. So if I don't like Android, then I'm flamebaiter? Without having cheap phones even people with no job could afford, Android would not be the second popular mobile OS.

fixed for ya but totally agree with your original post.

I used my friends phone for a week cause i left my windows phone at home and i used his android that was running 4.0 i think, maybe 4.1 cause he keeps his hardware up to date and buys a new phone when one comes out and it still felt lackluster. I couldn't figure out what the big deal was especially with something like the windows phone os as an option.

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Nope, because they have a return policy that I follow. It's not my fault that I'm playing by their rules.

That is unethical. You're costing a business money for buying a phone you have no intention to keep.

Those rules are for people that make genuine mistakes when buying a product. I hope they find out what you're doing and ban you from their store.

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Nope, because they have a return policy that I follow. It's not my fault that I'm playing by their rules.

That policy is supposed to be used for customers that purchase a product intending to actually keep it, but they run into an issue that requires them to return it within that time-frame.

People who abuse those policies are part of why prices jack up on things. :(

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That is an issue with the phone, not with the OS. Maybe Samsung did something to disable autocomplete (although I doubt it), but to say that Android doesn't have autocomplete, when it has had it since at least 2009, is flamebait because it's not true.

It's not flamebait when I say that autocomplete was not on my phone. Your flamebaiting me because you don't like my comments on Android.

That policy is supposed to be used for customers that purchase a product intending to actually keep it, but they run into an issue that requires them to return it within that time-frame.

People who abuse those policies are part of why prices jack up on things. :(

Does not jack up the price. The only things that jacks up the price is taxes, where it's made and how many units they buy.

That is unethical. You're costing a business money for buying a phone you have no intention to keep.

Those rules are for people that make genuine mistakes when buying a product. I hope they find out what you're doing and ban you from their store.

It's actual legal what I'm doing. I've only done it a few times but your changing the subject of this thread!

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Does not jack up the price. The only things that jacks up the price is taxes, where it's made and how many units they buy.

It's actual legal what I'm doing. I've only done it a few times but your changing the subject of this thread!

Actually I used to work in loss prevention for a major retailer, and provided support analysis skills for a major gaming company. Yes illegitimate returns do drive up the price of goods.

You can try to argue this all you want, but you're arguing from a standpoint of not knowing anything about how retail sales work from the business end of it.

When you handle the books for a company and deal with the reports on non-legit returns and have to decide on pricing for specific items due to the non-legit return rates, then come back and tell me that. ;)

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And do you honestly think that phones running WP7.5 will still be on sale in two years time? Your comparison is meaningless.

Well Nokia plans to launch more Windows Phone 7.8 handsets in the coming months so they are not calling quits on WindowsCE yet.

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You bemoan the lack of a builtin podcast app and had to google it. Oh how I weap for the children! If I switched phone OS's I would have to google too, it's not exactly a hardship!

I don't even understand the problem you had with the contacts? If the contacts exist on your google account, they exist on your phone unless you've made a mistake/changed a setting somewhere along the process of adding your account to the phone or adding the contacts to your account.

Texting does autocorrect, again, more than likely a user problem; again here you could have downloaded any number of different keyboards from the market with different functionalities, Swype, Swiftkey, SlideIt, Smart Keyboard Pro, Touchpal... and there's dozens more and they all operate in slightly different ways to satisfy different users. Unlike things like iOS you actually get a choice here.

You're also complaining about a phone that's well over a year old using an OS that's almost 2 years old. Why not just go ahead and compare iphone 3gs running ios4 with a windows 6.5 phone, that's about the result of your post here.

If you don't like Android as an OS you're fully welcome to have that opinion, but I still fail to see your original post having any kind of a point.

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