Peanut butter and jelly sandwich confiscated

[Ryoken]

Again, peanuts are NOT nuts, they're PEAS, or to be more accurate, they're legumes. Them saying something is "nut free" doesn't mean it's peanut free.

I do wish people would learn the distinction... It's kind of important, y'know? :p

I can't be bothered to get more specific on a forum. Anyone who doesn't know what I mean isn't worth my time :p

Very true. Unfortunately, the people making these rules rarely know the distinction either.

It is rather hard to find things here that don't have that warning. If you look at the candy or snack aisle at a store here, probably 90% (or more) of the packages have warnings like that on them. Maybe the laws in Canada aren't as strict about the labeling on the packages as they are here. It seems that here, if a product was processed in the same facility that also processes peanut products, it has to have a warning on it.

Yes it's common.. but by this time of year they start putting the displays, lots of them will be "Packaged in a nut-free facility.." and the like..

[draklin]

Again, peanuts are NOT nuts, they're PEAS, or to be more accurate, they're legumes. Them saying something is "nut free" doesn't mean it's peanut free.

I do wish people would learn the distinction... It's kind of important, y'know? :p

You do realize that a vast majority of people have no idea what a legume is right? It is called a peaNUT so therefore it must be a nut right? Anyways, that is what most people think. Yes, the peanut is most closely related to soy but you can't expect everyone to know that.

It saddens me that there is so much ignorance and intolerance in this thread. I mean are you serious saying that kids with food allergies are not "normal"? Are you really suggesting that they be kept away from everyone else? Funny how that same attitude was used not too long ago to keep the "normal" white kids away from the black kids. Ignorance and intolerance to any one or group based on a specific criteria is unacceptable.

It is funny that everything has to be handicapped accessible with only a few handicapped people to use it but no one complains. Why is that? oh, because requiring a ramp for wheelchairs does not really affect other people. People only complain because it affects them. Do you think anyone would give a rat's ass if it was something that no one used? Say the school banned food with curry powder, would this thread be this long? of course not because it wouldn't affect many people so everyone wouldn't care.

[ncoday]

nvm

[Southern Patriot]

It saddens me that there is so much ignorance and intolerance in this thread. I mean are you serious saying that kids with food allergies are not "normal"? Are you really suggesting that they be kept away from everyone else? Funny how that same attitude was used not too long ago to keep the "normal" white kids away from the black kids. Ignorance and intolerance to any one or group based on a specific criteria is unacceptable.

Sorry, but people who have a life threatening allergy to an incredibly common item are NOT "normal", and the parents of these children are, IMHO, being incredibly irresponsible by sending their children into schools where the vast majority of people DON'T have this illness. Restricting the diet of 90+% of the students in a school to cater to the possibility that someone might have a reaction to a common food item is beyond idiotic.

As for your other point, making stores, etc. handicapped accessible doesn't restrict other people in any appreciable way, but restricting the foods that people are allowed to bring to school does.

[Hum]

Personally PB+J= :x

Peanutbutter with apple butter is where it's at. :p

[bj55555]

Just make your kid a goddamn ham sandwich, and if you're Jewish use Pastrami.

[draklin]

Sorry, but people who have a life threatening allergy to an incredibly common item are NOT "normal", and the parents of these children are, IMHO, being incredibly irresponsible by sending their children into schools where the vast majority of people DON'T have this illness. Restricting the diet of 90+% of the students in a school to cater to the possibility that someone might have a reaction to a common food item is beyond idiotic.

As for your other point, making stores, etc. handicapped accessible doesn't restrict other people in any appreciable way, but restricting the foods that people are allowed to bring to school does.

Do you know anyone with food allergies? Do you have any idea what the people and kids with allergies have to go through already? It is easy for people to give their opinion on the matter when they have no idea how it works or what the affects are. It is just like how people without kids tell parents how they should raise their kids even though they have no idea how hard it is.

If the school was to ban at least 2 of the top 3 (milk, eggs, peanuts) then yes, i would agree with you that it would be too restrictive. But just peanuts? It's not that big of a deal because there are so many other options available for lunch.

[Sir Topham Hatt]

How do you know some little asshat won't try to give peanut products to an allergic kid or smear it on him/her or spike his/her food with it when turned away?

Controlling it is the responsible thing to do.

We've lasted for years before without doing any of this kind of thing, so why should now be any different?

I agree, people with the problem/disability/allergy should try and help themselves instead of forcing other people to help them.

With your logic:

Should all road signs, number plates, newspapers be twice the size they are, to help those who find it difficult to see? Should all signs in America be in Spanish, French... to help those who don't speak English?

Maybe all audio should be twice the volume, to help those who are deaf.

I don't see why countries do this kind of thing. It's nice to be nice to other people, but there's only so much you should do. Make provions, but not at the detriment to someone else's life. Just like modern homes having wide doors and low door handles just in case there is a wheelchair user which needs them. Yeah, but what about young children when they learn to open doors? You can't protect everyone and can't please everyone.

And I don't even like Peanut butter and jam!

[Ryoken]

What about people with some disability, like a missing arm, should they be denied access to public education ? People with glasses ? The Poor who can't afford the graphics calculators ?

Lefties are also not "normal", they have to have chairs in schools designed for them, and the like.. lets all force them to say home.

A very little bit of common sense, like banning peanut butter products, and you've eliminated most of the risk.. not all, but you can never eliminate ALL of the risk. After the ban, and a little bit of education for the teachers as to what to look for, the rest is up to them. By the time they enter school they already know about it. They have been making sure to avoid the products for a few years now..

The solution isn't to put every kid who isn't normal into a protective bubble. That's not gonna happen. But it's also not to just ignore it either. A few small compromises that in the grand scheme have no real impact on anyones lives is a small price to pay for Drastically reducing the risk of death in a few students.

Hey maybe we can get rid of school zones, most students [in most places] get to school on a Bus, why should everyone else have to suffer for the few that need to walk.. they should have to be home schooled, or driven, cause making me slow down to a speed that drastically reduces the chances of me killing them on my way to work is just too much to ask.

We've lasted for years before without doing any of this kind of thing, so why should now be any different?

Actually lots of children have been "attacked" with peanut products in schools.. it's one of the reasons these rules came into effect.

Just because you didn't hear of it, normally cause there was no criminal complaints made, doesn't mean it didn't happen. I know of two such events in my local area, and that was just while I was still in school..

[Hum]

^ With all due respect to the above 2 posters, there is a major difference between an immediate, life threatening allergy, and minor inconveniences. ;)

Walking, eyesight, signs, lack of tech gadgets --- these are not life & death.

I do agree that those with bad allergies should be separated in some way.

[zeta_immersion]

I was one of the a55holes that brought peanut with me and then laughed at the people being allergic, then again, serious or not I told them to either leave or talk to me afterwards and everything was ok

had an argument with a teacher once not sure how it went because he was yelling and talking to me foaming at his mouth and I remember thinking about sex and the porn I just finished downloading ready to be watched

had a letter or 2 sent home and my parents actually tried to remedy the problem ....

people with allergies should be segregated ... and have an epipen with them ...