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#46 Nothing Here

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 00:29

Bah! Most Christians believe that it has to be a "Spiritual" type wife. I don't. Jesus was in his late 30s when he traveled around. Nothing is known of his life before. I personally think he had been married and had children. Don't know why a Prophet of God would leave his family, unless he didn't. But the Apostles could have just overlooked this fact and never wrote about it.

But then, I'm the one who believes Jesus was just a Prophet of God. Yeah, I know, according to a lot of fundamental Christians, I'm a heretic. :p


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Posted 26 September 2012 - 00:41

Bah! Most Christians believe that it has to be a "Spiritual" type wife. I don't. Jesus was in his late 30s when he traveled around. Nothing is known of his life before. I personally think he had been married and had children. Don't know why a Prophet of God would leave his family, unless he didn't. But the Apostles could have just overlooked this fact and never wrote about it.

But then, I'm the one who believes Jesus was just a Prophet of God. Yeah, I know, according to a lot of fundamental Christians, I'm a heretic. :p


not knocking you, just want to point out this: you see how easy it is to pick out certain things you WANT to believe? (and leave out the things you don't want)

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 12:18

EDIT: Never mind old thread bumped by bot.



#49 Jason S.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 17:32

Is that quote from RationalWiki?

Jesus was not a myth, Paul who wrote a lot of the New Testament is NOT a myth. Timothy was not a myth, The deciples were not Myths.
Josephus was not a myth.

Why is it so hard to believe that the Bible is not a myth?

oh that's right it's religious so therefore throw everything out (even the eyewitness accounts from Luke, Mark, John, and Matthew)

there is no evidence outside of the bible that jesus ever existed - therefore - myth.

 

The story of that dude living in a whale is a myth. that story of the Arc is an impossibility, and thus, a myth.

 

not to mention that everything in Christianity was adopted from older religions



#50 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 17:48

Doh! Caught by bot. :s 



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 17:55

there is no evidence outside of the bible that jesus ever existed - therefore - myth.

 

The story of that dude living in a whale is a myth. that story of the Arc is an impossibility, and thus, a myth.

 

not to mention that everything in Christianity was adopted from older religions

a year late..no one cares about your reply  :laugh:



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 18:30

there is no evidence outside of the bible that jesus ever existed - therefore - myth.

There are maybe 6-8 "scholars" that push that view often in commercial for-profit writings. Controversy = sales. On the other side are the vast majority of archaeologists, historians and even Roman records that say otherwise.

The story of that dude living in a whale is a myth. that story of the Arc is an impossibility, and thus, a myth.

Jonah was a parable. Learn the difference. The story of the ARK (LEARN TO SPELL) is recorded in numerous surrounding cultures writings, and there is evidence of a major Eastern Mediterranean flood event about the same time. One major theory is the breeching of a land bridge separating the Med from the Black Sea, forming the Bosphorus around 5600 BC.

Is it so strange to think that an inspired (divinely or otherwise) Noah saw the erosion of the land bridge worsening, realized what was going to happen, built a large boat, loaded up his family & every critter he could find and prepared to ride it out? Landing in Turkey as is depicted also makes sense since it's right there.

not to mention that everything in Christianity was adopted from older religions

Of course - Judaeism and its Semitic predecessors. Jesus was a Jew. Duh.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 18:50

As others have already stated, there are lots of references in the "Bible" where Jesus refers to his church or his group of believes as his "bride" (not really his wife, but his bride).

 

There were a lot of different "books" that were written about Jesus and his followers that never made it into the Bible.  Remember, folks, the Bible was compiled by man that picked and choose the "scripture" that best suited them.  Whether or not you believe God brought the Bible together is most definitely a matter of faith.  I believe that God has inspired many authors thoughout the centuries.  There are parts of the Bible that I think are inspired by God, and other parts that I question if they should have ever been included.  There are also lots of other religious texts that I think were inspired by God.  Sadly, I had to learn all of this outside of the church I grew up in.  Christian Churches seem to mostly teach that the Bible was actively worked on book-by-book, chapter-by-chapter in some grand scheme.  I felt like the church I grew up in worshiped the Bible as an idol over the worship of the "I Am".  I felt like that was blasphemous and left that church.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 19:03

^^ by "a man" I assume you mean Constantine? Mostly wrong. It was compiled, and hotly debated, by 300 early Christian leaders at the Council of Nicaea, which was called into session by Constantine. Dictated it was not.

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 16:41

There are maybe 6-8 "scholars" that push that view often in commercial for-profit writings. Controversy = sales. On the other side are the vast majority of archaeologists, historians and even Roman records that say otherwise.
 

I've never found that much evidence myself. Most of it seems to have been written after Jesus was dead, such as with Josephus. Not that I am a scholar on the subject.