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#1 Yogurtmaster

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 07:29

Source:
http://www2.tbo.com/....new-ar-516071/


Why is this so illegal when abortion is legal? What difference does life make in or out of the womb (double standards)
If she would have had an abortion it would be an A-OKAY, but she had the baby and kills it and it's now murder.

I personally think both should be murder, but I find it comical sad that morality has sunk so low in this country.
That murder is now considered to be a woman's right because of selfish reasons.

I love the women's rights movement because they need them, and they should be respected and they should have
the same rights as men, because otherwise it's a double standard, but murder should not be a right anywhere in this country
for anything in this country.

But hey, maybe some day that murder will be fine no matter what and we will all be just holding society back with our old fashioned
morals and values.

Why am I tying abortion into this post, because it's both related and ironic.


#2 Tech085

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 07:32

I kill my own baby oh no :)
nope it can't be murder is just a baby!

#3 StevenJ

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 07:51

Using your logic, if my wife swallows my man juice, does that make her a cannibal?

#4 virtorio

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 07:55

If you can't distinguish the difference between a recently born baby and a feotus in the first or second trimester then it's pointless engaging you in conversation.

Furthermore, using tragedy like this to push your backwards views is a disgrace.

And for anyone interested in a working link to the source article:
http://www2.tbo.com/...-new-ar-516071/

#5 JaredFrost

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 07:58

Source:
http://www2.tbo.com/....new-ar-516071/


Why is this so illegal when abortion is legal? What difference does life make in or out of the womb (double standards)
If she would have had an abortion it would be an A-OKAY, but she had the baby and kills it and it's now murder.

I personally think both should be murder, but I find it comical sad that morality has sunk so low in this country.
That murder is now considered to be a woman's right because of selfish reasons.

I love the women's rights movement because they need them, and they should be respected and they should have
the same rights as men, because otherwise it's a double standard, but murder should not be a right anywhere in this country
for anything in this country.

But hey, maybe some day that murder will be fine no matter what and we will all be just holding society back with our old fashioned
morals and values.

Why am I tying abortion into this post, because it's both related and ironic.


The difference being, the child was birthed, therefore able to survive on its own, it was a fully formed child.

#6 SongHyeonDeok

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 07:58

Your link doesn't work...

They say that life begins outside of the womb, so ejecting a fetus is seen as aceptable because it didn't truly have a life to begin with.

I find it both comical and sad that you think abortion is done out of purely selfish reasons; most people figure that if they did have the baby, they couldn't give it a full and true life anyway, so it's better to never have it all. That and I don't know if you know, but we have a major overpopulation issue here on Earth, so which are you willing to give up, sustainability for the human race, or your morals.

The woman's rights movement is no longer needed. You're trying to argue that a fetus is a person, I agree with current law and argue that at a certain point, it isn't a person and it isn't murder. If we lived in a perfect world, maybe laws like this wouldn't exist, but in our current world they need to. The fact we still have war is evidence of how we still don't truly value human life on this planet.

It's a little old fashioned to think everyone's fine to procreate and breed and a fetus should be valued as human life, but as I said, there are far greater atrocities that occur than women having abortions, maybe you should focus your attention on those instead of sitting on your nice moral high ground.

Out of curiosity how old are you?

#7 rfirth

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 08:06

Killing a birthed baby is wrong for the same reason that late-term abortion is wrong.

But late-term abortion and killing a baby is not the same as an abortion during the first or second trimester. Make sense?

#8 chrisj1968

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 08:08

this nation takes issue with killing others in other countries but never killing of unborn or newborn babies.. sick world we live in. I wonder if society is going to give her a free pass? wait, wait, Don't kill, the government doesn't like competition.



http://www.ncregiste...birth-abortions

and it's global http://www.weeklysta...04/616jszlg.asp

http://www.countercu...lucas240407.htm

http://www.scaruffi....ics/dictat.html

http://ia600302.us.a...a00ropeuoft.pdf

http://www.edie.net/...ry.asp?id=16959

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10578484

#9 logicwin

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 09:10

a fetus isnt a baby, its not a individual living being, in the first and second trimester its arguable that its a sack of cells that on their own wouldn't do anything

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:32

Can i get an official GOP seal of approval

#11 xdot.tk

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:35

We shouldn't base laws on your silly religious beliefs.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:35

Source:
http://www2.tbo.com/....new-ar-516071/


Why is this so illegal when abortion is legal? What difference does life make in or out of the womb (double standards)
If she would have had an abortion it would be an A-OKAY, but she had the baby and kills it and it's now murder.


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Thats not a baby, Which is why aborting it isnt murder, Which is why we don't have a funeral when one is flushed (which is what happens to most of them anyway).

Only the willfully ignorant don't understand this.


this nation takes issue with killing others in other countries but never killing of unborn or newborn babies.. sick world we live in. I wonder if society is going to give her a free pass? wait, wait, Don't kill, the government doesn't like competition.


This is the inevitable rusult of your policy's on abortion and sex ed.


Also lol @ infowars typical truthers no different than the GOP, But they governments after them :rofl:

Why am I tying abortion into this post, because it's both retarded and idiotic.



#13 Nick H.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:41

Why is this so illegal when abortion is legal? What difference does life make in or out of the womb (double standards)
If she would have had an abortion it would be an A-OKAY, but she had the baby and kills it and it's now murder.

:| Wow. Just wow.

#14 +Vykranth

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:46

Abortion is not really the issue I would care about from that story ....

From this awful tragedy, what I would like to understand and have addressed is
- how a teenage girl can be sexually active at 14? Did she got sexual education?
- how come she did not seek help? No nurse at school, no one to talk to?
- how come a bad situtation escalated into a completely FUBAR story like this?

I'd rather talk about the ways and ideas to prevent teen pregnancies than abortion.

#15 Hardcore Til I Die

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:51

Not sure if serious or just overwhelmingly stupid.

My dog raises better points of discussion than you.

Such as "RUFF RUFF grrrr, snarl bark?" What a riveting conversation that was.