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[+Mephistopheles]

John Callaham: Don’t be a goat rapist
An open letter to John Callaham:

I have never once said I don’t like closed platforms. I have quite a few of them laying around my house, and I love most of them. My Nintendo 3DS brings me headaches and remakes of good games, my PSP Go is pretty much the only one sold in the entire world, and my cable modem from Cisco brings me amazing internet access almost 98% of the time.

But my favorite device out of all of them is my PC. It’s an open platform, designed to be open, and to allow different hardware and software to all work together kinda-sorta crash free, and it’s amazing. I can install whatever OS I want on it, or even write my own if I happened to be a mad genius (I wish). I care a lot about my PC, and I want it to stay open, and will not participate in anything that would make it more closed.

For every user Microsoft convinces to use the Modern UI, they have one more user they get to choose what programs they can see. They get to certify programs and control the experience. This is great for them (and possibly arguable makes for a smoother end user experience as well, but that’s debatable if it’s good), but it places faaaaar too much power in the hands of a single entity.

This is my complaint.

Now, on to personal things.

You’ve never ever been cruel to animals as far as I know, and I find that very charming and manly. It’s one of the things I like most about you, in fact, and it would be a huge shame if you ever did something cruel to animals, but I know you won’t. So thank you for not being a goat rapist! It wouldn’t fit you at all!

Thanks for the personal attack,
Markus

Source: The World of Notch

[Tom]

John should respond. Think of all the hits.

IT'S ON NOW.

[HawkMan]

And since windows will always have an open side next to the WinRT store which needs to be closed for security and for tabs, he needs to stop being a crybaby.

[grayscale]

I don't get the goat reference

[+remixedcat]

one entity.... oracle.... they control java....

[dead.cell]

Oh god, this is gold! I take it it's on like Donkey Kong?

[ScottKin]

So, I wonder how all of his Tweets about Windows 8 meshes with this posting of him?

"Multiple Personality Disoder" Long?

[DARKFiB3R]

lulz

[DarkyDan]

Amusing, but surely he ignored most of the article. It wasn't about Notch making a version of Minecraft that can be sold/installed from the Windows 8 App store. It was about Windows 8 Certification... Certification of it's compatibility with the legacy Desktop. Well that's the idea I got from John's article.

[ichi]

DarkyDan, on 02 October 2012 - 07:51, said:

Amusing, but surely he ignored most of the article. It wasn't about Notch making a version of Minecraft that can be sold/installed from the Windows 8 App store. It was about Windows 8 Certification... Certification of it's compatibility with the legacy Desktop. Well that's the idea I got from John's article.

The article is about the technical feasibility of certifying Minecraft, which is largely irrelevant for Notch's stance on the matter.

He just doesn't want to certify his app for an OS whose direction he doesn't agree with.

[paulheu]

How does Win8 prevent you from installing any non 'Metro apps' through desktop as before? If you choose to develop for the new interface you have to play by MSFT rules, else stick with the 'legacy' desktop environment. And PC != Windows last I ckecked, Windows 8 does not change anything to the 'openness' of your PC except for installing apps running in the 'Metro' environment so what's your beef really?

[REM2000]

Windows 8 doesn't stop you installing any Win32 application, i.e. most of the ones that are about now,

Notch's problem is the future, currently Microsoft is pushing to metro, how many revisions is it before it's metro only? Or you have to jump through hoops to get it going? Is it going to be Windows 9 or 10. If Microsoft keep the desktop then thats fine, however it's the future and it's no good trying to stop it once it's gone, it's best to stop it now. Microsoft are listening so hopefully this kind of feedback will help them better shape the future so that Microsoft wins and the end user/developers win.

Oh and apple is not the same as Windows, Apple has always been a closed platform, Windows on the other hand has always been open which is one of the reasons its on 90% of the computers in the world.

[Neobond]

Microsoft offered to help certify Minecraft on Windows 8, Notch launches tirade of ill informed comments about Windows 8 and John (correctly) pointed out how wrong he is, even going so far as to comment how easy Rafael was able to get it certified for Windows 8, and then Notch writes this?

is all I have to say.

Rafael also doesn't read things thoroughly it seems as well.

[+remixedcat]

ichi, on 02 October 2012 - 08:00, said:

The article is about the technical feasibility of certifying Minecraft, which is largely irrelevant for Notch's stance on the matter.

He just doesn't want to certify his app for an OS whose direction he doesn't agree with.

Pure arrogance and disrespect of the fans.... I have said this many times on the OA and I will repeat here for those that didn't:

Notch is being arrogant and putting his ego first and not the players of minecraft..... if the fans want it then he should do what the fans want.... regardless of what platform it's on.... regardless of whether he likes the store idea or not... that's one part of being a developer, sometimes you have to put your own interests aside to make your users happy.... and this is where he epically fails.... my hubby doesn't care about windows 8, yet he knew about this and thought notch was being a douchenozzle about the whole thing... he is... he's arrogant and he needs to get his head out of his buttox.

[ThunderBuddy]

I wouldn't even dignify this with a response, I'd just stick Notches face onto a baby throwing it's toys out of the pram.