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[Neobond]

Yeah I will be advising John not to follow up on this.

[morden]

so he's got no problem with XBLA or AppStore?

it's nice to read how he tries to divert the conversation by mentioning closed platforms like his cisco router... try mentioning a few he actually makes money from

and cut the romantic crap about PCs and own OSes... just tell me who paid you for this 'opinion' of yours; i'm serious, it's NOT shameful to be a good businessman but if you want to be one just go and certify your stuff and present it on Windows Store, it's just another way to get it to people; meanwhile noone controls the desktop apps i install (I REALLY WISH SOMEONE WOUD DO SOME QUALITY CONTROL) so i can have my freedom and my Modern UI exactly the same time

you can have your dignity and stop promoting someone else's bull****

[+jamesyfx]

Yeah I would just put this one to bed, there's clearly two strong minded individuals with different thoughts. It's never really going to end if it continues.

[ichi]

remixedcat, on 02 October 2012 - 08:30, said:

Pure arrogance and disrespect of the fans.... I have said this many times on the OA and I will repeat here for those that didn't:

Notch is being arrogant and putting his ego first and not the players of minecraft..... if the fans want it then he should do what the fans want.... regardless of what platform it's on.... regardless of whether he likes the store idea or not... that's one part of being a developer, sometimes you have to put your own interests aside to make your users happy.... and this is where he epically fails.... my hubby doesn't care about windows 8, yet he knew about this and thought notch was being a douchenozzle about the whole thing... he is... he's arrogant and he needs to get his head out of his buttox.

Disrespect how?

Notch is under no obligation to support the latest Windows OS version, let alone certifying the app. AFAIK you were never promised any kind of support on future Windows releases... and yet Minecraft will anyway be running on W8, just not certified.

By the way, has Minecraft any kind of certification at all for any Windows version? If not, why is it suddenly such a big issue? Just because Notch went vocal about his reasons?

I'd take bigger offence over the fact that as far as 1.3.2 Minecraft still has problems with chunks not loading, resulting in holes in the map and/or being able to see distant mines through the floor.

[+remixedcat]

ichi, on 02 October 2012 - 09:35, said:

Disrespect how?

Notch is under no obligation to support the latest Windows OS version, let alone certifying the app. AFAIK you were never promised any kind of support on future Windows releases... and yet Minecraft will anyway be running on W8, just not certified.

By the way, has Minecraft any kind of certification at all for any Windows version? If not, why is it suddenly such a big issue? Just because Notch went vocal about his reasons?

I'd take bigger offence over the fact that as far as 1.3.2 Minecraft still has problems with chunks not loading, resulting in holes in the map and/or being able to see distant mines through the floor.

If the fans want full certified windows 8 support and he does not want to due to personal egotistical reasons that is disrespect....

[ichi]

remixedcat, on 02 October 2012 - 09:39, said:

If the fans want full certified windows 8 support and he does not want to due to personal egotistical reasons that is disrespect....

What fans do want full certified Windows 8 support? Minecraft fans or Win8 fans?
Did anyone actually care about that before Notch twitted about it?

Is Minecraft fully certified on Windows7? Does anyone care?

[Karanlos]

Why are people still using iOS and Xbox versions as a bashing tool? Was iOS or Xbox ever adverticed as open platforms? Was there ever a time where you could submit a game/app without it going through a cert on those platforms?
Desktop Windows has never had this and what he's saying is he fears what Windows will become. A platform controlled by Microsoft meaning everything has to go through Microsoft. Ofc. that is not how it is now with Windows 8 but what about future versions?

[Intrinsica]

While the response letter seemed a bit unnecessary, I say that it is his game, therefore he can choose whether he wants it to be Windows 8 certified or not. Does his reasoning behind it really matter?

[Javik]

Minecraft is Notch's creation, he has every right to do what he damn well pleases with it. I know this thought doesn't sit well with the Microsoft shills at this forum but people are in software development for themselves, not to appease Microsoft.

[Deranged]

ichi, on 02 October 2012 - 09:45, said:

What fans do want full certified Windows 8 support? Minecraft fans or Win8 fans?
Did anyone actually care about that before Notch twitted about it?

Is Minecraft fully certified on Windows7? Does anyone care?

That's where I'm at. The man made his millions and now he gets to spew his opinions, be they full of **** or not.

[ahhell]

TIL Notch is a ****.

I have zero respect for the guy now (not that had much to begin with).

[Dot Matrix]

If he was smart, he'd give his fans what they really want. A game without Java.

[Deranged]

I'd like Microsoft to come out and say definitively if WinRT will stay 'closed' or not. You can 'sideload' WinRT apps already, though the process is a little convoluted for your average user...

I couldn't care less what Notch thinks but I'd still like some clarification on whether or not this is going to be permanent.

[tiagosilva29]

Javik said:

Minecraft is Notch's creation, he has every right to do what he damn well pleases with it.

Pretty much this. Notch received a standard media partnership from Microsoft: Microsoft would help him certify his game for the platform and give him some cash, while making a media spin around it. Notch said no.

[ichi]

Dot Matrix, on 02 October 2012 - 10:57, said:

If he was smart, he'd give his fans what they really want. A game without Java.

If he was smart he'd release a game that sold so well he'd make a fortune (duh!).